To: scratchgolfer
I will tell you EXACTLY what happened. It is the same thing that has been happening for last 400 years. Muslims got bitch-slapped. And it will keep happening till they return to their senses. First they used to hide behind women's veil, now they send women as homicide bombers. Yeh, real brave warriors.
To: scratchgolfer
Good piece by and large, but the "crime" of destroying structures is quite bizarre in my opinion. If that is the worst the IDF did, then I salute them totally. They are a well disciplined, effective, and ETHICAL force. I salute those that have trained them, and their own ethics. I salute them as a man.
5 posted on
04/20/2002 9:19:15 PM PDT by
Torie
To: scratchgolfer
On the ground, however, it is the detail of ordinary life destroyed that catches the eye. Tangled mounds of concrete and reinforcing rods climb up a gentle slope. The eye alights on a shoe here, the leg of a doll, bedding, pages from the Koran, pictures and shards of broken mirror.I guess he wasn't out to the site where the World Trade Center once stood, just after 911.
6 posted on
04/20/2002 9:25:22 PM PDT by
mrustow
To: scratchgolfer
If the Euroweenies want to see massacre's they need to visit some of the sites where these suicide bombers (or should I say "Sacrificial Lambs") blew themselves up in order to murder innocent people in Israel.
Why isn't the U.N. drafting a resolution condemning these parents who offer up their children to these EVIL terrorist who brainwash them into killing themselves. Or where is these humna rights activist who are so worried about the rights of the battlefield combatants being held in GITMO. But don't seem to give a rats ass about Saudi Arabia and Iraq paying the families of these suicide bombers for selling their children into so called martyrdom. Where is the outrage from these groups?
7 posted on
04/20/2002 9:28:53 PM PDT by
MJY1288
To: scratchgolfer
The true crime of Jenin camp is this act of physical erasure. It is covered by Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention in its prohibition on 'the extensive destruction or unlawful appropri ation of property, not justified by military necessity committed either unlawfully or wantonly.'When the Sabras take precautions NOT to kill civilians, their "crime" is detroying property. Does this guy play Philadelphia lawyer in busting the "Palis'" balls? I didn't think so.
Article 147 mentions other crimes that may be applicable to Jenin: the alleged taking of hostages for human shields by the Israelis;
Oh. So the Jewish sioldiers are obliged to get blown up by boobytraps?
... the same army's refusal of access for humanitarian and emergency medical assistance
Sure, they're supposed to permit Red Crescent bomb runs!
... and the deliberate targeting of civilians, particularly by Israeli snipers.
Now, he sneaks in the blood libel! He has no evidence of this claim. Indeed, he had earlier suggested that it was phony (just another "Pali" lie). This guy is one sophisticated propagandist!
But it is the sheer scale of the destruction that Israel will most likely have to answer for.
He said from the outset, that it was no massacre, but now he's trying to bring the notion back in, through the back door.
8 posted on
04/20/2002 9:33:53 PM PDT by
mrustow
To: scratchgolfer
What this is, is the first dawning realization by a Euro-Leftie that the massacre thing isn't going to fly. So now there's going to be a scramble to shift ground and find some other reason to charge Israel with a war crime - the objective that can't be surrendered. This guy is hoping that if he repeats often enough how "brutal" the Israeli action was and how "devastated" Jenin is, he can sell the idea that blowing up buildings in urban warfare is a grave war crime.
To: scratchgolfer
I guess it hasn't occured to any one of these people that bomb factories might just contain explosives that could cause damage to houses? I guess none of them have bothered to put together the stories by the Palestinians where they bragged about booby trapping the houses with EXPLOSIVES, about the pipe bombs, about the bombs in garbage cans. I guess these dummys think it's impossible that any of that could have caused damage.
What do they put in the water in europe that is rotting their brains?
To: scratchgolfer
TWICE AS MANY PEOPLE WERE KILLED by government power at Waco, Texas in 1993 as were killed in Jenin last week.
Furthermore, 90% of those killed in Jenin were uniformed fighting men of Islamic Jihad.
At Waco, seventeen of the 80-odd dead on 4-19-93 were children under 8 years of age.
And at Waco, all the dead were intentionally killed. The kids were NOT BYKILL!!!
Where was the Guardian and the weeping Eurotrash THEN? If they want to investigate something, the dead of WACO are crying for justice!
27 posted on
04/20/2002 10:16:02 PM PDT by
crystalk
To: scratchgolfer
WHERE was this bleeding heart Eurotrash scum, when 3000 Americans were much more brutally murdered on 9-11-01, and they were guilty of nothing, not even of opposing Islam!
Many of them were liberals, who would gladly have died for political correctness. Looks like maybe they DID!
29 posted on
04/20/2002 10:19:43 PM PDT by
crystalk
To: scratchgolfer
Yes, incredible how the "...intensity of the devastation..." produced only 30 bodies, isn't it?? Maybe that's because the Israeli army told everyone in the camp to
evacuate before they bulldozed.
A reporter on the radio yesterday said the soldiers had removed dishes and personal property for some of the people before the tanks moved in. Of course, the Palestinians said that was "looting".
It will be interesting to see which American news outlets report there was no "massacre". FOX News said it two days ago. Today they reported that the story of Israeli soldiers shooting and killing a Catholic priest leaving the Church of the Nativity was a lie.
36 posted on
04/20/2002 10:51:45 PM PDT by
Deb
To: scratchgolfer
bump
43 posted on
04/20/2002 11:33:30 PM PDT by
Shermy
To: scratchgolfer
One thing, however, is beyond question: that the soldiers of Israel carried out an act of ferocious destruction, unparallelled in Israel's short history, against an area of civilian concentration where Palestinian fighters were based. This "ferocious destruction" pales by comparison to the Black September months in Jordan, when it was Muslim vs. Muslim terrorists.
Am I the only one who remembers?
Was a Norwegian retard wandering through the devastation mouthing inanities?
Was not the provocation then deemed completely justified in the response?
To: scratchgolfer
This may sound trite, but are you really a scratch golfer or is that wishful thinking?
To: scratchgolfer
In 1998, when the Serbs destroyed a village known to be a center of Albanian terrorist activities in Kosovo they were threatened by the US with air strikes. So why isn't the US threatening to bomb Israel today?
Who pays, wins.
46 posted on
04/21/2002 2:50:27 AM PDT by
Canuck1
To: Jethro Tull
Looks like some cracks are forming in the Eurotrash Press.
49 posted on
04/21/2002 5:43:01 AM PDT by
TomB
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