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To: Maelstrom
Let's see if another round is more successful

I fail to understand what it is that you think you are trying to convince me of. Slam Hobbes all you want - it bothers me not a bit, nor is it in the least bit relevent to the reasons I stated for making the post.

The members of the Constituional Conventions drew upon the works of all those I have posted; Hobbes, Rouseau, Locke, Hume, Aristotle, Machiavelli, and many more I have not yet posted, but will in time. They drew from each of them, some more than others, in the creation of our form of government and its checks and balances.

To fully understand how our founders came to the conclusions they did, and why it is to our peril to forget those conclusions, we need to know where those ideas came from. The fact that you dislike Hobbes and feel that everything he said is wrong, does not negate the influence of Leviathan on political thought in their time.

You seem to have completely missed the point of why I posted the quotes, even after I explained it to you. I'm not trying to be snotty here, because you are obviously intelligent, but I just don't understand the point of you ripping Hobbes as if you need to convince me of something Or have I missed some point of yours?). The quotes were not posted with intention of convincing people that Hobbes was the greatest thing since sliced bread. He's not. But he is worth taking a look at. Just as it is worth reading Marx or Hilter for the purpose of understanding why their writings influenced so many - to the detriment of the world. That's called education.

34 posted on 04/22/2002 6:35:17 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: PsyOp
Only this: If the Founders Used Hobbes they made a mistake.

I feel it is the Federalists that trusted Hobbes, that helped create the stituation which allowed a government to be created that was fully capable of ignoring it's Constitutional bounds leading to the strife seen in the War Between the States and the sentiments that make a true Civil War, in the future, a very real possibility.
35 posted on 04/23/2002 4:08:35 AM PDT by Maelstrom
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