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To: Spar
Are you aware that in 1943-44 Franciscan houses in Rome sheltered 536 Jews from the SS? The Franciscan offer of sanctuary has nothing to do with the moral worth of the supplicant. The ethic of mercy, peace, and non-violence recognises only need, and does not presume to judge merit.

No I was not aware of that, and should have been. Are you saying that these Franciscan didn't lock doors? Or did they in fact make a moral judgement that some supplicants (Jewish civilians) should be welcomed and other supplicants (Nazi SS) should face locked doors and the appearance that a house is empty? If they did the latter, which I suspect was the case, they were true heros precisely because they did presume to judge merit.

Even among monks, priests, and nuns there are heros and others not so heroic. I know nothing about the Franciscans but gladly accept that the wonderful report above.

I am most of the way through reading "Monte Cassino" by David Hapgood and David Richardson, which is about a famed Benedictine abbey in World War II. I would say from that book that the Benedictines at this one particular abbey were, on average, morally better than the average person, but still normally human. Sometimes the doors were locked against quite worthy supplicants, other times even Nazi "supplicants," coming as slave catchers, were, under extremely difficult circumstances, allowed in.

I feel that there was some implication that I was being anti-Christian, although I am probably being too sensitive. In any event, I am not anti-Christian or anti-Catholic. As for the Christians in the church, only some of them Catholic, how can one generalize? Based on the Washington Post story, it is quite clear that not all the religious Christians in the church have the same viewpoint. They are under enormous pressures and are perhaps facing situations not fully covered by the rules of their order.

130 posted on 04/21/2002 7:24:24 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Steve Eisenberg
I don't think your reply was meant for me..
169 posted on 04/21/2002 11:49:56 AM PDT by Spar
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