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Okay Chuck, now let's take the other prophesies in the SAME CHAPTER of Zechariah, and you tell me when they occurred...

3. On that day I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone, a burden for the WORLD. When, post 480 BC, did THAT occur?

4"On that day, says the LORD, I will cause every horse to panic and every rider to lose his nerve. I will watch over the people of Judah, but I will blind the horses of her enemies. When did that happen? (Except for one brief period, which ultimately ended in failure, Israel and Jerusalem were under the yoke of occupation or enslavement from 480 BC up until they were destroyed by Rome in 70 AD.)

6. "On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a brazier that sets a woodpile ablaze or like a burning torch among sheaves of grain. They will burn up all the neighboring nations right and left, while the people living in Jerusalem remain secure. When did THAT happen? The Maccabean revolt occurred WITHIN the confines of Israel, it did not "burn up all the neighboring nations to the right and left".

7. The LORD will give victory to the rest of Judah first, before Jerusalem, so that the people of Jerusalem and the royal line of David will not have greater honor than the rest of Judah. When did that happen? ("Judah" was made part of the Israeli state in 1948, but NOT JERUSALEM! Jerusalem was re-unified to Israel, LATER -- in 1967!!!)

Most importantly, God places these events POST-Jesus (vs 10) as you yourself freely admit. For your interpretation to be true, Israel (The "House of David") would have had to ACCEPT Jesus. They didn't. A small PART of Israel did, and they became the Church. But the Church is never depicted as the "House of David". That refers only to National Israel.

I suppose we can agree to disagree, but CLEARLY, Chuck, this is not talking about the Israel that, except for one brief revolt (which ultimately FAILED), was under the thumb of constant occupation up until it was destroyed in 70 AD.

But we can nail it down even more surely from the Book of Revelation, which we KNOW was written after the end of ancient Israel.

Harking back to our discussion of Rev 4... (from note # 55) "1 Then I witnessed in heaven an event of great significance. I saw a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon beneath her feet, and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant, and she cried out in the pain of labor as she awaited her delivery. Who do YOU, Chuck say that this is?