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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Thomas Hobbes, and later John Locke, are philosophers who established philosophical ideals that are the basis for Modern Western Civilization.

You know, that isn't necessarily a good thing.

Locke set the groundwork from which Hume (in an inherently irrational philosophy, IMHO) went on to logically deny the existence of causality, universality, and pretty much everything beyond an extreme version empiricist skepticism. It is out of this extreme skepticism, and inherent to them, that the present day post-modernist left wing wackos emerged - the people who argue for moral relativism, claim that nothing is absolute, and point to "cultural diversity" (as long as its non-western) as an answer for everything and an excuse to do anything.

And then there is Hobbes, the famous 'Monster of Malmsbury,' who completes the picture by giving those same left wing wackos a pass with which they go about enforcing and promoting their wacky socialist post-modernist agendas: might makes right.

68 posted on 05/02/2002 10:53:09 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
...Hobbes, the famous 'Monster of Malmsbury,' who completes the picture by giving those same left wing wackos a pass with which they go about enforcing and promoting their wacky socialist post-modernist agendas: might makes right.

Hobbes wanted an end to sectarian fighting within Christendom. In his Leviathan might does make right, but under the monarch whom the subjects owe for their protection. Hobbes also believed in a hegemony (a Christian one). Also, don't forget the time in which he lived.

I'm not saying I agreed with Hobbes. However, he did have some very clear ideas that still apply to today's world of politics. I think his attitude concerning Palestine (Israel) is how we should see the situation. (See my earlier comment.)

69 posted on 05/03/2002 6:38:32 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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