[fire and forget]

I don't think any of us ever said he was smart enough to not engage in an extra-marital affair (or rape for that matter). He always thought he'd get away with such. He's a sexual predator among other things and his sort always thinks they can get away with whatever they do in a sexual and moral context. Ultimately that's why he surrounds himself with attorneys. I doubt that translates to his having the ability to (or believe he can get away with) having American operatives pull off mass killings of innocent Americans. His overriding concern, as we all know is himself. If he or anyone connected with him were associated with the actual implementation of the OKC bombing, he'd be history, as would the democratic party. No matter how careful you are, you run a HUUUGE risk trying to pull off something like that. And you have to know that it's going down and when. I'd love for it to be so. The guy would be buried as should have been the case long ago.

The cover up of a Muslim connection to the attack is possible, but not overt acts by clinton to facilitate it. It's a fanciful dream and nothing more.

[glorygirl]

It is not my personal belief that Clinton planned the OKC bombing -- just that he smelled a sociopathic opportunity when he heard about it. We already know that Ashcroft, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld and of course Bush have been notified of all the inconsistencies in this case, and have said/done nothing. Which isn't much better.

How much more likely is it that Clinton, at the time, knew, or at least found out what was going on, given all the evidence that's been produced since then, and his behavior shortly after the bombing?.

I don't know how old you are, or how closely you were paying attention during the first half of the Clinton administration. But it was a horrible thing to see Clinton decline to accept any responsibility for Waco, and place the blame instead on his appointed AG, a woman who'd been working for the federal government for less than two months. (Of course he didn't have much more experience at that level then, either, which is no excuse. At least Reno admitted ordering it.)

It was no more comforting, and highly disturbing, in fact, to hear Clinton promise, just after McVeigh's arrest, that the "perpetrators would be put to death, sooner rather than later." I distinctly remember sitting in my car, listening to my radio, and thinking "whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?" (of course, in Clinton's view, that only applies when the VRWC is doing the accusing)

And that was in April, 1995, way before we knew all the stuff we know now.

And the next thing he does is blame the radio talkshow hosts. Well, Bill, why don't we just get rid of radio & TV, or better yet, let's put it into the hands of the goverment. The Telecommunications Act of 1996 effectively accomplished that. And he got the Anti-Terrorism bill passed that year, too, retroactively, which is unheard of.

Oh, well, the list is endless.

None of us knows for certain what occurred -- just that there was definitely some kind of Middle East connection, and that the bombing definitely DID NOT go down the way the federal government said it did. Whether rogue elements of the federal government were involved, and to what degree, is uncertain, whether the Strassmeiers of the world were involved and to what degree also remains uncertain.

It is possible that NO ONE knows for sure exactly what happened, now that McVeigh is dead. But we do know there is more to the story that should be investigated, and Bill Clinton is largely at fault for not insisting it be done very early in his administration.