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PETA targets UNC lab; Treatment of mice, rats videotaped
News and Observer ^ | April 18, 2002 | CATHERINE CLABBY

Posted on 04/18/2002 7:27:38 PM PDT by mykdsmom

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Oh puleeze, these PETA nuts really expect us to take them seriously?

I bet they don't enjoy the benefits of any drugs or medical treatments that arise from the testing on these rodents either.

I actually think they would prefer that we do human testing first so we don't harm the precious mice.

MKM

1 posted on 04/18/2002 7:27:38 PM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: ncweaver; ncpastor; Howlin; Pamlico; kachina; Congressman Billybob; a4drvr; blackbag; jamz...
PETA wacko Ping.

MKM

2 posted on 04/18/2002 7:29:29 PM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: mykdsmom
If the terrorists don't get us, the whacko in Chapel Hill will. We are doomed.
3 posted on 04/18/2002 7:31:23 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
os.........whackos.
4 posted on 04/18/2002 7:31:49 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: mykdsmom
"We need to get better results, so I keep brain fresh," the lab worker says. As he speaks and cuts out the brain, the rat's beheaded body wriggles on a table in front of him.

This kind of stuff makes it to television, and UNC is in deep shinola.

People will tolerate animal research, but they will NOT tolerate cruelty.

I can't stand PETA, ordinarily, but if what they say they've filmed actually occurred, then UNC deserves all the hell it's about to get.

5 posted on 04/18/2002 7:33:28 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: *Enviralists
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6 posted on 04/18/2002 7:35:44 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: sinkspur
Hey, it is either use rats or trial lawyers. Rats wouldn't be my first choice either. You can get too attached to rats.
7 posted on 04/18/2002 7:38:26 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: sinkspur
I kind of agree with you, but I'd feel better about the protesters
if they showed even one tenth the squeamishness for partial birth abortion.
8 posted on 04/18/2002 7:38:34 PM PDT by jwalburg
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To: sinkspur
People will tolerate animal research, but they will NOT tolerate cruelty.

I can't stand PETA, ordinarily, but if what they say they've filmed actually occurred, then UNC deserves all the hell it's about to get.

But I can't think of a more humane way of removing a fresh rat's brain. Can you?

Death should be instantaneous. The twitching is purely muscles reacting to severed nerves.

9 posted on 04/18/2002 7:40:48 PM PDT by gitmo
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To: sinkspur

ALRIGHT WHO LEFT THE CAGE OPEN?

10 posted on 04/18/2002 7:41:58 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: sinkspur
,,, I presume there would have to be some burden of proof that the filming was done at the lab mentioned, not at some dressed up warehouse owned by a PETA freak.
11 posted on 04/18/2002 7:44:00 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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But I can't think of a more humane way of removing a fresh rat's brain. Can you?

Doesn't matter what I think; it matters what it LOOKS like. And it won't look good.

The cavalier attitude of the attendant won't help either.

12 posted on 04/18/2002 7:44:05 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: jwalburg
Today, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals will release video footage of rats being beheaded

"Today, People for the Ethical Treatment of Humans will release video footage of newborns getting scissors stuck into the base of their skulls during partial birth abortions."

13 posted on 04/18/2002 7:44:21 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: shaggy eel
I presume there would have to be some burden of proof that the filming was done at the lab mentioned, not at some dressed up warehouse owned by a PETA freak.

Sounds like they might be just a tad nervous:

On Wednesday, they said they have strong guidelines in place. But if evidence of poor treatment emerges, they said, the problems will be fixed.

I'm all for animal research. But, I also worked in a funeral home, and I know how lax and comfortable people can become when operating in an environment and others can take some of that laxity as disrespect or, in this case, cruelty.

14 posted on 04/18/2002 7:48:20 PM PDT by sinkspur
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What is cruelty? For example, in the video you see rats getting shocked in a bucket. This is apparently an experimental model for human seizures. The electrical shocks stimulate a similar neural depolarization process in the rat brain as what occurs in humans during a seizure.

You also see mice that have tumors that are being studied to understand how cancer developes, how it grows, and how it spreads.

The entire point of using animals in research is to understand the normal and disease physiological processes, with the ultimate goal of better understanding and treating illness. BY DEFINITION, this incorporates animal suffering.

Does everyone get that??? B/c you better decide now who's side your on. Do you support using animal models of human disease, or not?

I'm a little p/o b/c this peta person infiltrated the animal facility in the building I worked in.

Make no mistake about it, the goal is to make it too expensive to reasonably carry out research using animals. Oh, the irony. The one true example of a mistake in the stupid little video was showing that animals were not properly euthanized. You know why? Because the easiest and most effective way (and most humane) to euthanize mice (breaking their necks) has been outlawed because of animal rights creeps like this one and others. (you now have to gas them with CO2 gas, which can be prone to equipment failure and is more susceptible to operator error).
15 posted on 04/18/2002 7:53:07 PM PDT by 95Tarheel
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To: AmericaUnited
"Today, People for the Ethical Treatment of Humans will release video footage of newborns
getting scissors stuck into the base of their skulls during partial birth abortions."


I won't hold my breath. PETA types spend too much
time harrassing prolifers to film human cruelty.
16 posted on 04/18/2002 7:53:07 PM PDT by jwalburg
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To: sinkspur
The filming was done at UNC. No question about it.
17 posted on 04/18/2002 7:54:48 PM PDT by 95Tarheel
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To: sinkspur
Did you know there are more mice raised in the US for the purpose of feeding to snakes than there are for laboratories.

This is all about giving mice and rats the same "rights" that cows and other livestock have, and eventually, about giving them equal rights as humans, I might add.
18 posted on 04/18/2002 7:59:43 PM PDT by 95Tarheel
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To: mykdsmom
I'll listen to these kooks when they sneak that hidden camera into an abortion clinic
and threaten to shut THEM down for cruel and INHUMANE practices.

Won't happen!

19 posted on 04/18/2002 8:00:58 PM PDT by petuniasevan
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To: sinkspur
I can't stand PETA, ordinarily, but if what they say they've filmed actually occurred, then UNC deserves all the hell it's about to get.

Oh please, don't swallow the PETA cheese so willingly. Since this gal had a motive to find "problems", she did, how do we know that she didn't set up some of here "findings"? As far as the killing of the mouse and the wiggling body, have you ever used a mouse trap? If so, then shaddup.

20 posted on 04/18/2002 8:05:37 PM PDT by Enlightiator
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