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Marine email: 5 of us held off crowd of 3,000 at US embassy in Bahrain.
email ^ | 4/18/02 | Marine Security Guard

Posted on 04/18/2002 1:31:31 PM PDT by LarryLied

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To: vance
It would appear your personal credibility is fairly shaky here.

Speak for yourself.

81 posted on 04/19/2002 12:28:02 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
You have been offered on several occassions to have the mail sent to you after you demanded that the headers be posted

Hmm? I think it was one occasion. You're obviously as inept with numbers as with everything else, mangy. Not that it touches on the current topic, of course :).

It is a fact that you do not wish to corroborate but are only interested

It is a fact that the authenticity of a piece of text floating around on the internet cannot be verified by looking at email headers. If you're too stupid to realize this, you probably should have joined some semi-criminal hacker group too unintelligent to think they were being noticed ;). The market for stupidity is breathtaking in those circles, I've heard.

We'll get to the bottom of this without fumbling around, you know :)).

82 posted on 04/19/2002 12:37:27 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
from your post # 68:
"What I was interested in wasn't the names, but the path the mail has travelled, which is in the headers. That can say something about wether it is authentic, or something that some pimply kid has spammed the net with from his room."

from your post # 82:
"It is a fact that the authenticity of a piece of text floating around on the internet cannot be verified by looking at email headers."

You sure have me confused!

83 posted on 04/19/2002 1:11:53 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
You sure have me confused!

At first Mr. Lied implied that this was something personal that he had received. It gradually became clear that this thing is widespread over the net, so that there is not, in all probability, one sender but rather lots of people sending this back and forth. So the headers are no longer of interest. As I said, other ways must then be used :).

84 posted on 04/19/2002 1:22:39 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: LarryLied;Beach_Babe
You posted it as a valid email and implied it was indeed a *true* email then proceeded to post a link to your own propagandistic thread which blamed those darn Jooos for an attack by Jihadists on what you ALSO implied, were our troops stationed at an *air base* which is untrue, and at the 5TH Fleet, which is ALSO untrue. Now you admit that this *email* might well NOT be true, but it's *interesting reading?* What kind of a human are you? You have been caught and proven a liar over and over and over, but it makes good reading? To whom? Most people on this forum are interested in truths. And where it comes to our troops, this kind of exploitation for your own propagandistic agenda is not just disgusting, it is downright unpatriotic. All you seem to care about is your own attempts to blame literally everything on a Jew and you NEVER fail to make that point, even when it's pointless.

Beach-Babe, I wonder that you have gone ahead and posted what headers you have, but could not, for some reason, post the letter yourself, otherwise preferring Larry post it for what purpose, only the Lord knows. Perhaps you didn't realize for what purpose Larry would use it. However, if you did, then how much respect do YOU have for our Marines that you would allow such a blatant exploitation of their heroism to link to the efforts of mr. Lied to imply that Jews are bringing the wrath of the world down on American troops which we have already proven was a deliberate and purposeful, not to mention uninformed, LIE!?!
Your explanation about a dialup being the excuse for not posting it yourself is a tad nonunderstandable to me as I have had dialups which not only permitted much longer tomes, but many of the people here also use dialups and don't seem to have that problem.
The facts here are very simple. Larry used this *email* to promote an agenda which has become outstandingly obvious. It has no other purpose than to promote discord and suspicion of ANY Jew, whether they be CONSERVATIVE or *other*. The *other* we are doing our best to convert. By using this forum to discredit ALL of us, he makes a connection that is undeserved and unproductive, both for Free Republic, and for all of us who value Conservative American ideals via the Constitution and ALL of its Amendments.
We are cognizant of the assault by the ADL on the 2nd which we have organized against and are fighting with every fiber of our being. What is being done here is nothing less than character assassination of each and every one of us who happen to be American AND Jewish AND Conservative.

85 posted on 04/19/2002 3:17:59 PM PDT by Nix 2
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To: LarryLied
Certainly is an account of what would have happened if described by a Marine on site. Good article, many of us have to be reminded of the bravery that Embassy guards are required to demonstrate, not the cushy assignment some think. Bahrain is important to us, if only we could have our interests placed over the foreign lobbyists but as I watched that rally Monday I knew the goose is cooked.
86 posted on 04/19/2002 4:58:33 PM PDT by mv1
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To: mv1
as I watched that rally Monday I knew the goose is cooked.

I don't think you have a goose, mv1. You should try cooking your jackboots. I hear they taste great with garlic. Just be sure not to undercook them :)).

87 posted on 04/19/2002 5:47:33 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Nix 2;Beach_Babe
Far out. I feel your pain but there is nothing I can do about voting patterns. Blacks on Free Republic have no problem when we go after groups such as the NAACP. They lead the charge. I suggest you get used to it. Conservatives are not about to stop attacking those groups which attack them. Look at what paranoia about me did to your side on this thread. Seeing antisemites under every bed is not healthy.
88 posted on 04/19/2002 6:15:42 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: mv1
many of us have to be reminded of the bravery that Embassy guards are required to demonstrate, not the cushy assignment some think

I think most of us are well aware it's no cushy job to be a Marine Guard. I also think the people who need reminded the most are the Clintonistas who allowed them to be murdered by Islamic terrorists in Africa and in Somalia and never did a damn thing about it. My brother is a Marine. And every democrat that remains in office is my enemy.

89 posted on 04/19/2002 6:19:26 PM PDT by Nix 2
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To: mv1
Bahrain is important to us, if only we could have our interests placed over the foreign lobbyists but as I watched that rally Monday I knew the goose is cooked.

The King of Bahrain is trying to stamp out the Shi'ite Hezbollah in the country as best he can. But there were more protests today. Now they want the US 5th Fleet to pull out (the Fleet headquarters are there). Those pro-Israel rallies sure don't help the situation. I don't know what is in people's heads. We can support Israel without rubbing that support in the face of those we need and who support us.

90 posted on 04/19/2002 6:19:40 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
I have no paranoia about you, Larry. You are not unbiased and you do not confine yourself to anti-constitutional minded groups. You attack JEWS, plain and simple. It doesn't matter to you whether any of us Jooos are conservative or liberal. We just have to be Jooos. So save your crap for someone you might still try to convince. My gag reflex has had it for the day.
91 posted on 04/19/2002 6:28:41 PM PDT by Nix 2
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To: LarryLied
I guess the saying is true.

All it takes is a few good marines.

92 posted on 04/19/2002 6:34:41 PM PDT by Samwise
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To: LarryLied
Could you direct me to some of the threads with the black freepers agreeing with your criticisms of their Liberal institutions? I'd like to read them. Thanks.
93 posted on 04/19/2002 6:50:41 PM PDT by vance
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To: Beach_Babe
I don't see how your information proves anything about this. Looks like an email that may or may not be valid which made it's way around the net and was posted here with a phoney link after all.
94 posted on 04/19/2002 6:58:24 PM PDT by xvb
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To: LarryLied;Jim Robinson;sleavelessinseattle;First_Salute;Cachelot
How does your post jive with THIS? Please enlighten us, Larry. We have been asked BY WHOM to leave Bahrain?
I am copying this entire crap and forwarding it to the US Information Office at the US Embassy and the CO of the Fifth Fleet in Bahrain for clarification, and Lord help you if you have done this exploitation of our Servicemen for your own pitiful benefit and hateful agenda.

U.S. PLANS MILITARY AID INCREASE TO BAHRAIN
April 19, 2002

WASHINGTON [MENL] -- The Bush administration has requested a major increase in military aid to Bahrain as part of the U.S.-led war against terrorism.

The administration's request comes as the Defense Department plans to expand U.S. military assets in the kingdom. Bahrain is one of several Gulf Cooperation Council countries meant to receive aircraft and other systems that have been removed from Saudi Arabia.

Officials said the administration has requested $28.5 million in the emergency supplemental budget for fiscal 2002. The money is meant to help countries that are participating in the U.S. campaign against terrorism. Bahrain is home for the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet, which patrols the Persian Gulf and the Indian Ocean.

The additional U.S. aid to Bahrain is meant to help the kingdom purchase military systems. The officials said Bahrain faces difficulties in purchasing undisclosed weapons from Washington.

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With this post, all the Bahrain threads are now archived in MY files in preparation for confirmation from the US Embassy and the CO of the Fifth Fleet. ONE chance, Larry. You go too far.

95 posted on 04/19/2002 7:20:46 PM PDT by Nix 2
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To: LarryLied
10 minutes and waiting, traitor. 20 minutes left and off it goes.
96 posted on 04/19/2002 7:33:11 PM PDT by Nix 2
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To: Nix 2
We have been asked BY WHOM to leave Bahrain?

The Shi'ite Hezbollah protestors are demanding we leave. The King and the Shia minority want us there.

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration assured the Arab world on Friday that it would keep working with Yasser Arafat on a pathway to peace.

But anti-American and anti-Israel sentiment was strong.

In Bahrain, more than 3,000 marched from a mosque in the capital Manama to the U.N. office chanting: ``Death to the U.S. and Israel!''

They burned an effigy of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and called on the government to close the U.S. Embassy and the U.S. base on the island. Bahrain hosts the headquarters of the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669267/posts

In other words, the Shi'ites are trying to do to us in Bahrain what they did to us in Iran. This protest was small. The last one drew 50,000. This is why I don't think it is such a great idea for Americans to wave Israeli flags at rallies. The video is picked up in places such as Bahrain. The more we are tied to Israel, the harder time is is for the minority in Bahrain to resist the will of the majority.

97 posted on 04/19/2002 7:33:55 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: vance
Could you direct me to some of the threads with the black freepers agreeing with your criticisms of their Liberal institutions?

No. They will have to identify themselves to you. I don't keep track of things like that and considering many don't see the need to spell out what they are one only learns after writing to them via freep mail. You might check out Project 21. Several freepers are associated with that group.

But if you doubt conservative black attack black groups, just search on Ward Connerly, Armstrong Williams, Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams. There must be some conservative Jews who go after the liberal Jewish establishment the way conservative blacks go after the NAACP but I can't think of any. Rabbi Levin is the only person who comes to mind.

98 posted on 04/19/2002 7:42:23 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Nix 2
… then how much respect do YOU have for our Marines …

How dare you question my respect for any of our armed forces! Two of my brothers retired from the army, as my father did. I have a nephew in the Air Force, a son-in-law in the Navy, and a cousin in the Marines. I also have several nephews who are members of FDNY and NYPD. My hometown is Rockaway Beach, NY. We lost over seventy souls on 9/11, many my friends and neighbors. They are all heroes in my eyes.

99 posted on 04/19/2002 7:44:55 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Nix 2
Your explanation about a dialup being the excuse for not posting it yourself is a tad nonunderstandable …

Are you insinuating that I’m a liar? Obviously you know more about computers than I do. I’ve recently relocated to rural north-central Florida. If you’re ever in the area, stop by and take a look at my system, I'm sure you can fix the problem.

Larry used this *email* to promote an agenda which has become outstandingly obvious. It has no other purpose than to promote discord and suspicion of ANY Jew…What is being done here is nothing less than character assassination of each and every one of us who happen to be American AND Jewish AND Conservative.

Could you please direct me to that post, I seem to have missed it. And until you do, you can kiss my royal Irish a$$.

100 posted on 04/19/2002 7:46:19 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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