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GM s car guy is betting Americans want to feel proud of their vehicles
Union Leader ^
| Apr 18 2002
| George Will
Posted on 04/18/2002 3:40:20 AM PDT by 2Trievers
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posted on
04/18/2002 3:40:20 AM PDT
by
2Trievers
To: 2Trievers
Well...let's help them out, what do YOU want in a vehicle?
I'll start. I want something that's cheap, easy, and simple to maintain. I want something that's going to last more than 7 years by a factor of 10. I want something that doesn't need to be taken to a dealership for parts or repairs every 50,000 miles. I want something that's inexpensive to insure, inexpensive to purchase, and I want something that's safe. Which means it won't crumple up and crush like a beer can (aka Geo's first thingamabob). I want something large enough to carry my wife, my two kids, and at least 3 of their friends.
It wouldn't hurt if it looked patriotic enough to represent a middle finger to all the Liberals out there (the majority of which are anti-American).
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posted on
04/18/2002 4:00:33 AM PDT
by
Maelstrom
To: 2Trievers
Then they were automobile voluptuaries, Detroit was in its rococo period and its great stylist was GMs Harley Earl...I'll cast my vote for Virgil Exner.
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posted on
04/18/2002 4:11:14 AM PDT
by
uglybiker
To: 2Trievers
It'll be a long time before I buy another 'American made' car. They're pieces of CRAP! GM products are the worst. For what I can afford, Honda and Toyota make the best cars IMHO.
To: Maelstrom
I was a GM fan, even a stockholder. They lost me. I liked my '92 Saturn and loved my 75 Camaro, but that was a while ago and they seemed to be the exception to otherwise poor quality GM cars. It will take a lot for GM to win me back. I love my 4WD S/C Toyota Tacoma. Built for Americans by Americans in California. Trouble free, fun to drive...definitely not a GM product!
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posted on
04/18/2002 4:16:39 AM PDT
by
GBA
To: Maelstrom
Since you asked ... this is what I drive ... this is what I'd LIKE to drive ... &;-) To heck with Detroit Mr. Will!
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posted on
04/18/2002 4:22:49 AM PDT
by
2Trievers
To: GBA
No matter what they do, i'll keep my 1965 Chevrolet Pickup.
Ever since 1967 they have built them for the non user croud, ie. camper clowns and not for work. Besides that I haven't worn it out yet, it's only got 890,000 miles on it.
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posted on
04/18/2002 4:31:42 AM PDT
by
dalereed
To: GBA
I owned 4 Fords and then bought an Astro Van. I'll go back to Ford or Toyota. This thing is truly junk on wheels.
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posted on
04/18/2002 4:34:04 AM PDT
by
aardvark1
To: Maelstrom
Except for the large part, you've just described every GM we ever owned (the one we have right now is 9 yrs old and has 180,000 miles on it only 1 major repair, and that was just last month). But the last new car we bought was a Toyota Corolla. We bought that when GM wanted almost three grand more for a similarly equipped Prism. Sorry GM. Love your product, not your price. Get it down and we'll be buying GM again.
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posted on
04/18/2002 4:42:47 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: 2Trievers
I bought a Pinto in 72. Then had a series of overseas cars Mazdas, Toyotas, Saabs, including my love, my red MGB. Bought a 94 Caravan for the family, realized it wouldnt last to its last payment. Traded it for a Mazda 8 seat SUV which Mazda has since stupidly redesigned so now looks like a Caravan. Go figure. The Mazda works with the children, bikes, beach and our off road life. But there is still the heart of a red sports car beating in my body!!
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posted on
04/18/2002 4:43:17 AM PDT
by
mlmr
To: 2Trievers
Make my fave a Ford Model A. Last good car Ford's made.
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posted on
04/18/2002 4:43:44 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: uglybiker
Is that a Chrysler 300?
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posted on
04/18/2002 4:58:49 AM PDT
by
IWONDR
To: 2Trievers
McLaren, nice. That'd be very bad for my driving record, I'm sure. Or maybe not, since they'd have to call out the Air Force to pull me over and write me a ticket ;)
Of course, if you're shopping for the F1, you could always just upgrade your current ride, now that they have a street version of the 911 GT1.....
Drool ;-)
To: 2Trievers
GM products are junk!
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posted on
04/18/2002 5:01:43 AM PDT
by
taxtruth
To: general_re
My neighbor has a silver one ... at one time, only ONE of two in the USA! It's a SWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTT ride. Surprisingly small cockpit though. &;-)
To: mewzilla
Interesting...I've never found a GM product that even came close to fitting the bill.
Then again, we gave up on GM after their fabulous success known as the "Hornet" /sarcasm. I still don't trust a tiger to change their stripes after 20 years.
To: IWONDR
300
D, to be exact. 392 Hemi w/ dual CArter 4bbls, pushbutton Torqueflite. Top speed 135 which put it 4 mph faster than its closet competition in '57 (Corvette).
Add another 10mph for the hardtop.
To: mewzilla
We bought that when GM wanted almost three grand more for a similarly equipped Prism. Yep, price is what killed the Camaro and Firebird. That and the T/A's over-the-top styling. That car screams, "PULL ME OVER! I am a sixteen year old experiencing major testosterone poisoning!" One automotive magazine called it a "stylistic felon." What it demonstrated was GM's disdainful caricature of its customers.
To: 2Trievers
Your neighbor, eh? So, Trievs, ummm...where do you live these days? This neighbor, is he/she relatively
nearby? What? No, no reason, just curious. ;)
Anyway, last I heard, they were only making 30 of the GT1's, but they had left open the possibility of more. I confess - I've never been a fan of the Porsches. Even the 959 just wasn't my thing. So it figures that the very first Porsche that makes me sit up, do a double-take, and say "whoa, there" is the one that I have no chance in hell of ever actually getting my hands on ;)
To: general_re
Well, he also has a chopper sitting on his lawn to "commute " to the office and a yacht as long as a city block. Takes two days to fuel her up! LOL ... he seems to be very happily married ... from what I can tell. *wink*
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