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To: Lorianne
Back in those days the largest "at risk" group of women for STD's (including the cruel and untreatable syphlis) was MARRIED monogamous women.

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1) I find this hard to believe unless the men were getting it from each other. Otherwise, the men would have had to been getting it from a group of women who by your definition would have had the disease. If you have a substantial reference for your claim, such as Gabe Mirkin or the CDC I would like to see it.

2) You attempt to draw a relationship between the woman's lib movement of the last 40 years and earlier movements. Such nexis is quite doubtful. My mother was an liberated woman, and incidentally one of the best pistol shots I have seen in my lifetime. She, and other older women of independence and dignity, looked upon the wonan's lib movement of the last decades as a bunch of spoiled brats, neurotics, and idiots. I'll go beyond that and say many in the movement ar borderline psychotics or psychotics. This is the condition being sold beneath the vuihicle of deliberately obscuring slogans and arguments.

3) Reference to what was going on with VD etc 150 years ago as a counterpoise argument doesn't get you any slack in avoiding the absolute realities of what is happening now. What I said still holds as a reality.

263 posted on 04/23/2002 11:00:53 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
Let me add that reference to past history has become a rhetorical convenience used to avoid the subject of taking present responsibility. It doesn't get it at my house. Neither does it get it in terms of real world consequences.
264 posted on 04/23/2002 11:14:25 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
http://www.zetetics.com/mac/articles/contagious.html
282 posted on 04/24/2002 11:20:05 AM PDT by Lorianne
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