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To: avg_freeper
The sickos you mention have access to their own imagination for imagining these acts. This type of "virtual sex" is obviously not adequate because they are going to the web to satiate the desire. It will provide a higher degree of "realism" for them.

So? Satisfying the desire virtually is 100% better than not satisfying the desire until innocent children become injured in the process.

Thus we have a precedence of abandoning one level of adult-child sex for a more realistic version.

No, we have a precedence of abandoning adult-child sex for a substitution that is NOT adult-child sex.

It's highly likely the system will diverge. He will need more. Reality is the best virtual reality.

So I suppose you support a ban on simulated violence in movies and video games, including assault/battery, murder, rape, etc.? Or do you see these issues differently simply because of the lack of "virtual children"?

Will someone who plays a video game that depicts murder automatically be more prone to actually murdering someone? Not necessarily. In fact, I've "killed" thousands of "people" during my lifetime of video game play. I have yet to kill an actual person.

Some slopes are slippery. To deny that, is a logical fallacy in itself.

You're right about that. Making something illegal simply because it looks like something else is indeed a very slippery slope. Already, the thumb-and-forefinger in the shape of a gun is a violation of many school "No Tolerance" policies. That is just as absurd as a ban on any other type of simulation.

189 posted on 04/17/2002 4:35:00 PM PDT by SunStar
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To: SunStar
You imply that I wish to have something made illegal. That is not my desire or my point. Your entire post, in fact is written to counter the false premise that I wish for legislation to be enacted criminalizing simulated child sex. That point was never made.

Their are quite a few actions and behaviors that are abhorrent to a civil society that we absolutely can not criminalize. You have already put forth reasons why that must be so I won't go into that. Your mistake is confusing the right of others to take part in uncivilized behavior with suppressing my choice to criticize those acts.

My post was criticizing your belief that increased access to a type of child porn would not be detrimental to children and society as a whole. I stated my reason for that and I believe it was sound. But my solution to the dilemma is not to enact more laws!

A civil society can not be simply defined as all those behaviors allowable within the boundary of a finite set of rules. A wise man by the name of Godel( sorry I don't know how to do those funny dot thingys above the "o") would tell you why if he were still alive.

Suffice it to say, combating child porn requires speaking out against it. Being outspoken against the vices that lead to it. Laws are often too blunt of a weapon. Causing lots of collateral damage. Like I've seen in many other matters the best weapon is my own personal vigilance.

193 posted on 04/17/2002 5:11:36 PM PDT by avg_freeper
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