[AmericanInTokyo]

Every single one of us who stops for a red traffic light, is complicent in 'social engineering'.

[jlogajan]

Every single one of us who stops for a red traffic light, is complicent in 'social engineering'.

And your objection to socialism or communism would be what then?

[ffusco]

or perhaps they choose not to be t-boned at every intersection. Do you work at being stupid or does it just flow naturally?