GERMAN SOCIALISTS PLOT GLOBAL TAXES ON AMERICANS

USAsurvival.org ^ | 4/10/02 | Cliff Kincaid

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[madfly]

The audience included representatives of the U.S. State Department, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Nature Conservancy, the Environmental Protection Agency, and the British and South African embassies.

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None of the audience members took issue with the recommendations of the memorandum, which included a proposed 80 to 90 percent cut in the use of "environmental space” by "consumer classes” in the U.S. and other developed countries over the next 50 years.

State Dept. and EPA attend this farce at our expense, and NONE TAKE ISSUE. This is a crock.

[madfly]

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[reillyoburbank]

So that's where all the Nazis went. And here all this time I thought they went to Argentina!

[moyden]

Every liberal is a thug.

[monkeyshine]

French, who said she was not necessarily against private property rights

Not necessarily, as long as the property wasn't private, and that your rights were granted by beurocrats appointed by foreigners who don't even speak your language.

[Dick Bachert]

Precisely why the perfumed princes of the EU killed the GE/Honeywell deal. As we say down south, they're all ate up with envy.

Next time they need Americans with those HORRID -- arggghhh -- GUNS to come over to save their boney little butts from the tyrant-du-jour, tell 'em to call 911 at the old UN.

[Ferris]

Uninhibited human individuals acting - in freedom - in thier own self-interest have created ALL of the prosperity, wealth and progress that has ever existed on this earth. Governments, bureaucracies and taxation agencies have never created anything but death and destruction.

Absolutely 110% correct...

It is such a shame that the vast majority of humans on this planet do not recognize this...

And yet their own survival is predicated upon it...

Until the conscious human comes to grips with the power of his own consciousness, and the realization that consciousness cannot continue to exist if it is not free, he will continue to dwell in the anticivilization where he currently resides...

[norton]

Think you got the photo wrong,
isn't that one John?
Paul?
I know it isn't Ringo.

[Bump in the night]

These assholes can go to hell. (I know... go ahead and delete this. LOL)

[texson66]

Now that you mention it! ROTWFLOL!!!

[Bump in the night]

Thanks for the addys. Email sent to the b*tch.

[Mo1]

It is articles like this were I can not find the words I feel without getting myself banned from FR ...

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[jadimov]

...The Germans are on to a good idea, and we should pay attention to it. I believe that got it from the Romans who paid for the troops who kept the peace in Germany by taxing the Germans to pay for the troops kept there. We should adopt this policy in exactly the same manner. For one thing, we could immediately double the salary of all of our soldiers for a start...

Interesting analogy. The Germans were willing to pay taxes to support the Roman troops because the Romans guarding the borders in the west were mostly German. The Romans were never able to fully conquer or control the Germany tribes. Instead they bought them with money and trade goods. By the time, the Goths and Vandals destroyed the western empire, the northwestern empire was already German in nature. The Germans had married Romans and taken over the Army and other functions. It would be similar to us taxing the Mexicans and paying the Mexicans to guard our southern border for us. Hmmmmm.

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The reforms of the 3rd and 4th centuries left the empire -- particularly its western portion -- looking much like a medieval society.
1. The Christian church was the official religion and no others were permitted
2. The church was a agency of the imperial government, administering all social services and under the control of the government
3. The emperor was semi-divine and claimed that his power was granted to him by God
4. Military power was in the hands of Germans.
5. Town life had decayed, and commerce was dwindling because of the lack of a middle class.
6. With the decay of cities, formal education, particularly a knowledge of the Greek language, vanished in the western empire except among clerics and wealthy aristocrats
7. Roads and bridges were decaying, sea traffic was endangered by pirates, and communications were ever more difficult.
8. Power in the countryside was in the hands of great landowners living in fortified villas and surrounded by a peasantry dependent upon them for protection, law and order, and economic aid.
9. The state was no longer able to protect its frontiers or maintain civil order, and the Pax Romana had vanished.
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Conclusion

Nevertheless, taxes were collected to maintain an imperial government that no longer served the needs of the people. The Roman government in the West had become superfluous. In addition, the western empire no longer had the money or manufactured goods to trade with the German kingdoms that had grown up along its frontiers. The Germans had become accustomed to the use of Roman goods and the profits of trade with the Romans. When those goods ceased to be available and their profits disappeared, the Germans crossed the imperial frontiers in search of them.

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[ILuvRonnieRaygun]

My g!d, her first name's hitlery and her last name's french! Could this be the anti-christ!?!

[Cultural Jihad]

The only global tax I would support is one which went to the overthrow of socialist governments in Europe.

[jadimov]

...Yes, this is all well and nice, but you are telescoping a good 500 years into a blink, or trying to as if it could be done. We have only been there less than 60. We have a long way to go...

I know that it was a simplification. I was pointing out the results of trying that before. We have to make the same decision the Romans were faced with - republic or empire. There is no in between. At least none that I know of. I would prefer we remained a republic. It is one thing to send in the military to destroy. A republic can do this well. It is quite another to occupy land indefinately. That is the path to empire. (What are we STILL doing in Iraq?)

...I think we do use a lot of Mexicans in the border patrols. This of course is a classic notion from slave societies as Texas and Florida once were. What is more natural? They speak the language...

Have you heard of Aztlan? Mexicans on the border and within the border is a dangerous notion. Did you know that we almost annexed all of Mexico after the Mexican wars? It probably would have been better than what we have today.

...Rome did not fall because of the barbarians, it fell because it weakened it's currency as too much gold went to the Far East. One has to wonder about the long term drain on our economy from the drug trade. Over the long haul, even a fraction of one percent in a continuous loss can make or break an otherwise stable situation...

If I had to pick one cause for the fall of Rome, I wouldn't say gold or trade. I would choose the heavy and unequal tax policy that eliminated the once thriving middle class. All that were left were the wealthy and many many poor. The backbone of the society was gone.