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To: summer
The discipline problems such as those described in the article are significant and becoming worse every year. There is plenty of blame to be placed; parents, teachers, administrators, television/movies, liberalism, NEA, situational ethics/moral relativism, banning of religious expression, etc. are just a few.

There have been many good suggestions on this thread of how to solve some of these problems, and in my opinion, the most effective ones involve having a way for troublesome students to be removed from the classroom so that those who want to learn can have an environment more suited for it. We have to give our teachers the respect they deserve by backing them up when they are faced with these assaults and threats. What are principles thinking when teachers can be attacked and the perp is back in class a few days later?

This is really not that complicated or difficult to solve. There need to be rules of behavior established, and penalties for infractions must be enforced. I have two sons in a public charter school that does this, and there are very few discipline problems there. If all schools followed this model, we could solve 90% of these disciplinary problems and teachers could return to doing what they most desire to do, be teachers. The remaining 10% can be dealt with by sending them to separate classes or schools that specialize in behavior problems, or they can be expelled. The important thing is to make an environment where the majority of students can concentrate on their lessons without being distracted by disruptive classmates. As Summer pointed out, lowering the age of compulsory attendance would allow this to happen. I actually favor eliminating compulsory attendance altogether; some kids just don't belong in school at all, especially if they cannot control their behavior.

It is impossible to solve all of society's ills overnight, but restoring discipline in the classroom is a good first step in the right direction.

139 posted on 04/15/2002 6:43:34 PM PDT by Truth Addict
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To: Truth Addict
A big BTTT to your thoughtful post, Truth Addict.

And -- the big question remains: Why are the politicians NOT talking more about these kind of issues in this FL election year?

Because I agree with you: THIS is a real issue in education. And the solution is not "throw more money at the problem." It's really NOT what will help.

BTW, I am very impressed with the support shown on this thread, for teachers, by so many posters on this forum. Many conservatives do know it is tough in the classrooms.

There is plenty of room for voters of all parties -- at least those voters who are not spineless -- to come together to find real solutions for this serious problem of student misconduct. This on-going problem has devastating effects on teachers and those students who choose to behave and learn.

Finally, a big bump to those homeschooling parents who do a great job of teaching their own kids!

Thanks again for your post, Truth Addict. I appreciate it.
140 posted on 04/15/2002 7:08:41 PM PDT by summer
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