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1 posted on 04/15/2002 2:21:00 AM PDT by kattracks
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3 posted on 04/15/2002 2:26:57 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: kattracks
I'll say something that'll get flamed. But here goes...

Not everyone who smokes will die a horrible death from lung cancer and/or heart disease.

Not everyone who drinks and drives will kill people in car crashes.

Not every instance of sexual activity between adults and minors will result in intense emotional damage.

However, the probability of harm involved in the above activities is so great that society does have the obligation of pre-emptive sanction, or at least for the last two where the harm is towards others rather than one's self. I think the distinction is important philosophically, because attaching metaphysical certainty of harm actually undercuts the rational case for banning or discouraging certain activities which have a high probability but not an absolute certainty of harm.

4 posted on 04/15/2002 2:38:55 AM PDT by garbanzo
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To: kattracks
Anyone who defends pedophiles is a pervert. This is such an outrage that no normal person could accept it.
8 posted on 04/15/2002 3:36:01 AM PDT by Dante3
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Predator/stalkers who psychologically lure innocent children into having sex are the most heinous CRIMINALS. These are not intellectuals who irrationalize that not every young person who succumbs to a predator/stalker is harmed, these are idiots that need an epistomological house cleaning.
10 posted on 04/15/2002 3:56:20 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: kattracks
One section carries the headline "The Enemy Is Us."

A bit of truth in this horrid book, I see.

12 posted on 04/15/2002 4:01:32 AM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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Judith Levine pushing "pedophilia chic?" Now there's something trendy. After all now that gay rights is mainstream, there's the next minority to bring out of the closet. Besides who is society to stand in the way of true love or sexual pleasure? As liberals are so fond of telling us, "its a private matter," and its time to move on. Indeed the Levine contingent, led by Jocelyn Elders, can't see what the big fuss is all about. John Leo is right we should all beware of intellectuals defending that which no one in their right mind would ever think of condoning between adults and children. Where's the liberal concern for "its for the children." No wonder there's a move afoot to make child molesters the Left's latest victim class.
14 posted on 04/15/2002 4:41:09 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: kattracks
Intellectually respectable pedophilia? What's next?

Necrophilia, corpophilia, bestiality...just to name a few.

The Islamicists won't need bombs or guns to take over the West. They will just need patience.

18 posted on 04/15/2002 8:13:53 AM PDT by pollwatcher
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Bump!


From "On the Pedophilia Issue: What the APA Should Have Known"

" More Recent Defenses of Pedophilia

Harris Mirkin recently wrote a lead article in the Journal of Homosexuality entitled "The Pattern of Sexual Politics: Feminism, Homosexuality and Pedophilia." Using social-constructionist theory, he argues that the concept of child molestation is a "culture- and class-specific creation" which can and should be changed.

He likens the battle for the legalization of pedophilia to the battles for women's rights, homosexual rights, and even the civil rights of blacks.

He sees the hoped-for shift as taking place in two stages. During the first stage, the opponents of pedophilia control the debate by insisting that the issue is non-negotiable--while using psychological and moral categories to silence all discussion.

But in the second stage, Mirkin says, the discussion must move on to such issues as the "right" of children to have and enjoy sex.

If this paradigm shift could be accomplished, the issue would move from the moral to the political arena, and therefore become open to negotiation. For example, rather than decrying sexual abuse, lawmakers would be forced to argue about when and under what conditions adult/child sex could be accepted. Once the issues becomes "discussible," it would only be a matter of time before the public would begin to view pedophilia as another sexual orientation, and not a choice for the pedophile..."


19 posted on 04/15/2002 9:19:38 AM PDT by EdReform
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Let the useless academics spew their garbage. For me it is quite simple.
ANYONE touches my kids and I will kill them.
21 posted on 04/15/2002 10:01:30 AM PDT by Spruce
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