Unemployed Freepers?

self | April 14, 2002 | self

[SpyderTim]

Lucent to Cut 5,000 More Jobs - Source Reuters | April 11, 2002 | Ben Klayman

Posted on 4/12/02 11:59 PM Pacific by SpyderTim

Lucent to Cut 5,000 More Jobs - Source Thu Apr 11, 4:28 PM ET By Ben Klayman CHICAGO (Reuters) - Telecommunications equipment maker Lucent Technologies Inc. plans to cut about 5,000 more jobs than previously expected by the end of June because of the slowdown in the telecom sector, a source close to the company said on Thursday.

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Just got to thinking, with the economy supposedly recovering, and layoffs continuing all around us, how many Freepers are currently out of work? How are they finding the job market?

1 posted on 4/12/02 11:59 PM Pacific by SpyderTim [ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

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Luckily the coapany I worked for Did Good and accelerated my options when I was voluntarily laid off. Job market is pretty bad out there in high tech (programming). At one time or another 10 friends of mine were laid off this past year.

2 posted on 4/13/02 8:31 AM Pacific by lelio [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

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Just got to thinking, with the economy supposedly recovering, and layoffs continuing all around us, how many Freepers are currently out of work? How are they finding the job market?

Agreed. I know more people in the last year that have gotten laid off, and have remained laid off, than I do those who had no work and found it. This "recovery" is pure fabrication and spin pushed by the WH. The facts are that over half the new jobs created are being done by the government! GDP has increased primarily because of government spending!

Smoke and mirrors.

3 posted on 4/13/02 8:35 AM Pacific by Kobyashi1942 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

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My company announced its office relocation way back in April of 2001. My last day was November 30. I've been networking and interviewing since then but haven't found quite what I'm looking for yet. It's not a bad job market if you know what you are doing, but it isn't as good as when I first graduate from college in 2000 either.

4 posted on 4/14/02 1:53 PM Pacific by SpyderTim [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

[Xenalyte]

Some of these people just might be out of work because they lack rudimentary grammar and punctuation skills.

[Xenalyte]

I could hire people but I won't because of payroll taxes, exorbitant workers compensation premiums and other government restrictions.

I think you could refuse to withhold tax, as long as you inform your employees that they now have the responsibility of paying said tax themselves - a tactic of which I heartily approve, because it'll alert more people to just how much the tax system is screwing us over.

[LiveFreeOrDieTryin]

I suggest those out of work or needing a part-time job consider security guard work.

We just cancelled our security guard service where I work. It cost too much to have the old guy walk around the building til 11pm and turn off lights and coffee pots. No one ever realizes they are the last person in the building so the lights are frequently left on. I wonder if we're saving as much on the security guard as we are spending on the lights, now?

[Young Werther]

Thanks: Went to my first session with Right Associates today. As they remind us, this is a period when our emotions are on a roller coaster. Got some good resume pointers today and tomorrow is marketing yourself.

[Young Werther]

Thanks: Went to my first session with Right Associates today. As they remind us, this is a period when our emotions are on a roller coaster. Got some good resume pointers today and tomorrow is marketing yourself.

What's that phrase, "Illigemitae, non carborumdum est" sorta!!!

[blueriver]

Any other ideas?

I am convinced that we would all have jobs tomorrow if all the foreigners on H-1B visa's were sent home and the bill that increased the H-1B visa allotment to 200,000 per year was revoked by Congress. The real question is how to get Congress to do this. They do not appear to be interested in helping Americans.

If every laid off American called their representative every day and demanded this type of action we may have a chance of getting our jobs back.

The unemployment problem is a direct result of our representatives increasing the work force in America via the H-1B visa program.

[SpyderTim]

Are you referring to the freepers who have posted on this thread or to the workers laid off by Lucent?

[SpyderTim]

My job loss has nothing to do with the H1B visa issue.

[Xenalyte]

The Lucent workers. I would never say such things about my FReeper buddies!

[Drumbo]

Unemployed Freepers?

I rushed to open this topic; I thought maybe someone wanted to hire a Freeper, lol.

I'm a "me too". I was a professional musician for over 25 years, but I was getting too old to rock'n'roll and I turned to computers in the early 90's. I was a computer hardware techinian with half a dozen certifications and I ended up as an independent contractor with my own company until 2000 when the bottom fell out and the contracts disappeared along with the companies negotiating them. I helped build the Internet - a router at a time, but the Internet is built now and computer techs are delivering pizzas.

Recently I've been working a couple of days a week doing admin. or reception or whatever the temp agencies can dig up and the rest of the time I look for a new "career". When there's no admin. I do "whatever" they have, so far: housekeeping at a ski resort, unloading trucks and a box packer at the end of a conveyor belt at a litho plant (and I have delivered pizzas). No one wants to hire an "overqualified" 47 year-old that ran his own business for half a decade. I've been asked to "dumb-down" my resume repeatedly.

Maybe we shouldn't have done such a good job fixing Y2k, we could have let it all crash and burn, and then we would have had job security rebuilding it all.

Good luck Kalashnikov_68, Da_Shrimp, bandlength, Jaidyn, RonPaulLives, Alabama_Wild_Man, SERE_DOC, blueriver, southern rock, Dinsdale, Young Werther and anyone I missed or who hasn't arrived yet. Never Give Up!

[lewislynn]

I think you could refuse to withhold tax, as long as you inform your employees that they now have the responsibility of paying said tax themselves

I might be able to refuse to withhold but the employer half of FICA is a tax on the employer and would still have to be paid...It's not the withholding, it's the employer half that is one of the reasons for not hiring.

[Xenalyte]

This is true. Suckage.

[SpyderTim]

Stay tuned for a new thread due to this news: Mellon Financial to ship some IT work to India

[staytrue]

the most dependable job is working with and for the government

That is because the govt. can tax whatever it wants and can borrow whatever it wants. Furthermore, if you don't want to pay your taxes, they will take everything you have to pay and if you resist, you will go to jail and if you resist going to jail, they will kill you.