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Powell ready for Arafat meeting
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | Sunday, April 14, 2002 | By Betsy Pisik

Posted on 04/13/2002 11:20:46 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:52:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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Sunday, April 14, 2002

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1 posted on 04/13/2002 11:20:46 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Fox News said that the US is delivering millions in aid to Arafat, in addition to the $80 million a year he already gets.

I would not vote for Bush if the primary election were held today

2 posted on 04/13/2002 11:23:48 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: JohnHuang2
Powell ready for Arafat meeting

What - does he have a gas mask on?

3 posted on 04/13/2002 11:27:50 PM PDT by d4now
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To: JohnHuang2
I won't be shocked if they kill Powell and then claim he was shot by a rouge shooter who was subsequently shot by arafat's men and then deemed a martyr by one of arafat's splinter crazies groups.
4 posted on 04/13/2002 11:28:16 PM PDT by paul51
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To: JohnHuang2
We are at war with Islam and that is a fact. Islam is a false and terrorist cult. Not even a religion. Sooner we all say the truth the sooner we can win this war against these people. Add the demorats in and we have a big job ahead of us all.
6 posted on 04/13/2002 11:32:40 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: JohnHuang2
clue me john...

If arafat has been able to control hamas, and despite his previous "oaths" has not done so, he cannot be trusted, SO WHY talk to him.

on the other hand, if arafat has been unable to control the minions of evil in his territory of responsible, then talking to him now about stopping the terror, is akin to asking my three year old, how to rebuild my cylinder heads on the car.... If arafat is NOT the man, why negotiate with him, instead of the mail man or the dog catcher? If he is the man, he is such a liar, he cannot be trusted to keep his word and thus negotiations are still meaningless.

This is the CATCH 22 of his lifetime. This has to mean powell's visit has an alternative purpose...

WHAT COULD THAT BE? More tactical delay???

Or, the vacation offer arafat cannot refuse??? or both?

7 posted on 04/13/2002 11:43:01 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: GeronL
Where did you hear that "specifically"?

Who on fox said that?

I don't think this is about giving arafat aid. Perhaps we are giving him his ticket to punch, or a punched ticket?

8 posted on 04/13/2002 11:45:08 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: JohnHuang2
Arafat hasn't said anything he hasn't said before. Colin Powell and Richard Boucher maybe impressed with the statement, but Israelis have plenty of experience to know it doesn't mean anything. Yet here is Powell seizing this thin reed from a proven liar and mass murderer --- truly evil incarnate in a bid to destroy the credibility of Bush's war on terror. Indeed what can the world think of the meeting but the U.S government itself is making a distinction betwen "good" and "bad" terrorists based on the identity of the victims? And there's more - Powell called on Israel "to exercise restraint in the use of force and to permit humanitarian aid" to the Palestinians and get this --- he had NOT ONE WORD OF CONCERN to address to Israelis whose loved ones where injured and murdered in the PLO's homicide bombings. And the Jerusalem Post editorial today expresses the revulsion of the vast majority of Israelis at Powell's going to grant legitimacy to a known terrorist. It is precisely why his mission is doomed to failure.
9 posted on 04/13/2002 11:50:22 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Robert_Paulson2
The US announced we are giving more money to the Palestinian Authority for development and rebuilding their infrastructure. These millions come on top of the $80 million a year they already get for that purpose... I'm afraid to ask how much other aid we send annually.
10 posted on 04/13/2002 11:52:30 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I think the additional $62 million dollars that Powell pledged Saturday was to an international relief agency or something cool and leftist-sounding like that.
11 posted on 04/14/2002 12:00:27 AM PDT by RamsNo1
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To: goldstategop
One thing that really bothers me is that I haven't heard one note of concern by Bush or Powell regarding the anti-semitism in Europe. I can't believe that a statement condemning that violence would hurt US-Arab relations.
12 posted on 04/14/2002 12:05:36 AM PDT by RamsNo1
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To: Robert_Paulson2
from an AP story
Richard Cook, West Bank field director for the U.N. Relief and Works Agency, said dead bodies were piling up.

Following his meeting with five officials of U.N. and Red Cross aid groups, Powell announced the United States will contribute an additional $30 million for the U.N. Relief and Works Agency on top of the $80 million already contributed annually.

Through the U.S. Agency for International Development, the administration is providing $62 million in assistance for health care, water system repairs and emergency food aid, Powell said.

"We call upon the international community to do all it can to help at this time of exceptional Palestinian need," he said.


13 posted on 04/14/2002 12:09:28 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: TLBSHOW
You are exactly right. Islam grew up in an area that was traversed by the Apostle, St. Paul. Mohammed could sense that the nomads could not fully grasp the christian beliefs of death and resurrection of Christ and the virgin birth and so he concocted beliefs that would be more amenable/understandable to the nomads. In doing so, he became a person to look to for wisdom and guidance and was a very unifying force in the region. He also saw an opportunity to subjugate and dominate the masses of nomads who could become a powerful force if motivated in a certain direction. We, of course, are still seeing the fruits of "Mohammedism" today in full force.
14 posted on 04/14/2002 12:18:25 AM PDT by RamsNo1
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To: GeronL
Bush is a businessman, not a leader. Everything is negotiable. His first statement is always his opening bid, from which he negotiates down.

He did it with the EP3 plane, he did it with the taxes, he did it with CFR, he did it with the N. Korea nuclear plant, and he's done it with his "war" on terrorism. That's why he seems to waffle.

His position statements are merely bids in negotiations rather than statements of principle.

15 posted on 04/14/2002 12:38:55 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: RamsNo1
The world would be so much better off if we replaced the worship of Mohammad with worship of Captain Kirk
16 posted on 04/14/2002 12:45:07 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Robert_Paulson2;GeronL;d4now;paul51;TLBSHOW;goldstategop;RamsNo1;
To hear the critics tell it, the Bush administration hasn't merely gone soft on terrorism, it's virtually surrendered to terrorism. The war on the bad guys is over. The battle for civilization -- like the Bush Doctrine itself -- is no more. Neville Chamberlain has taken the reigns.

Somewhere along the way, Team Bush -- the object of nearly unanimous praise for its conduct of the War on Terror -- suddenly, inexplicably, went ga-ga for Jihadists. War-hawks, overnight, morph into pusillanimous doves -- patriots transmute into cowards. Plans for war on Iraq are scrapped, as flower-power White House staffers, prinked in sandals and beads, adorn the halls with pictures of Saddam Hussein and Osama.

In the Oval Office, hippie vibes charge the air as thick as Marijuana fog over Woodstock, as Condi, Rummy and Cheney join Bush in soothing chants of 'give peace a chance'.

Down the hallway, Karl Rove and Andy Card bang the bongos, bellowing Edward Starr's lyrics, "War-Huh! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!"

At the White House press room, a harried Ari Fleischer scrambles to brief reporters on Bush's new 'Read-my-lips, no-more-war!' agenda.

Flower Children, move over -- let Team Dubya take over!

Kidding aside, despite cries of 'sell-out' and 'betrayal' from critics, Sec. Powell's face-to-face with Arafat is anything but. What some blithely dismiss as dalliance with terror is, below the surface, elaborately choreographed diplomatic razzle-dazzle -- a piece of shrewd strategy aimed at addling the 'Arab street' in preparation for war on Iraq.

As Bush sees it, his consummate mandate isn't Mideast peace, but adverting a nuclear 9-11. Everything else is ancillary to the paramount goal of toppling Saddam Hussein. The Bush people realize the threat to U.S. vital interests posed by a nuclear-armed Saddam makes Arafat et al pale by comparison.

As vile and evil as Arafat is, Saddam Hussein remains the world's preeminent terrorist -- his regime, the unchallenged 'mother-of-all-terrorist' organizations. The Sword of Democles is in Baghdad, not Ramallah.

But turmoil in the Mideast is Husseins's trump card against the Bush administration goal of toppling him. The Bush people know this. Crisis in the Holy Land means diversion of U.S. attention and resources, and riled-up Arab masses.

Both splendidly serve Saddam Hussein. Small wonder why he pays lucrative sums to families of homicide-bombers.

To charges that Bush muddles his message by having Powell meet with Arafat, again I quote the sage writings of one ancient Chinese warrior, Sun Tzu: "All warfare is based on deception".

Here's the bottom line: Saddam Hussein is in a race for time. Iraq is in the wrap-up phase of its nuclear weapons development program. Saddam knows that, with nuclear weapons, all bets are off. The atomic bomb is Iraq's ace-in-the-hole -- long-range insurance to ward off a U.S. attack. But Saddam needs time -- just a little more time.

Enter the roiling Israeli-Arab crisis.

But Hussein is living in a fool's paradise. Iraq remains numero uno on Bush's checklist of 'to-do(s)'.

And DO, he will, mark my words.

Anyway, that's...

My two cents....
"JohnHuang2"


17 posted on 04/14/2002 1:16:57 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Everything else is ancillary to the paramount goal of toppling Saddam Hussein

But is that goal worth letting some jews die? Thats the real question.

19 posted on 04/14/2002 1:33:08 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
Sharon is 'taking care of business' as we speak, and will have, once sham "negotiations" collapse, the green light to go for Arafat's jugular. War on Iraq will dominate the news thoroughly, with the Arab/Israeli conflict just a footnote.
20 posted on 04/14/2002 1:36:16 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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