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U.S. confrontation with the U.N.: Henry Lamb predicts showdown over international court
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Sunday, April 14, 2002 | Henry Lamb

Posted on 04/13/2002 11:15:03 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

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Sunday, April 14, 2002

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1 posted on 04/13/2002 11:15:03 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Showdown?? Bush will give in. I have no doubt he won't stand up to the world and the UN, he can't even stand up to Arafat.
2 posted on 04/13/2002 11:28:59 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
"Showdown?? Bush will give in. I have no doubt he won't stand up to the world and the UN, he can't even stand up to Arafat."

What a loser mentality, the game is only in the first quarter and you have quit already. Are you from France or just easily influenced by the talking heads who can't see past their last column? Thank God you are here on FR and not in command of any of our troops.

3 posted on 04/14/2002 12:14:31 AM PDT by MJY1288
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To: GeronL
He has no choice - there are way too many of us out here that won't stand for this abomination, and we have both the US Constitution and even the UN Charter which makes this "court" illegal.

When I say I won't stand for this: I mean that there are many of us out here that would feel that in order to perform our duty as Americans we would gladly take up arms against those who would enforce any law which directly subjugates the US Constitution or so blatantly removes the sovereignty of America. And I'd like to see any law enforcement officer inside this nation who would lift a finger to stop us from doing what their oath of office requires them to do: Defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies - both foreign and domestic. (Yes, you can call that naive or foolhardy, but this is one of those times where real Americans need to once again become patriots. Regardless of "popular" opinion or the consequences.)

4 posted on 04/14/2002 12:17:46 AM PDT by 11B3
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To: MJY1288
I'm being a bit sarcastic. Maybe if we keep saying it, the administration will see how weak they are starting to look and decide to lash out and bomb the UN. we can hope.
5 posted on 04/14/2002 12:19:29 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: JohnHuang2
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6 posted on 04/14/2002 12:19:50 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
A bit sarcastic? Well, If I hadn't seen at least 10 comments by you, like the one above splattered over the last 20 articles JohnHuang2 has posted tonight, I might believe you.

Have you ever considered what would happen if the middle east was to become a regional conflict that would require us to come to the defense of Israel. The Arab world would unite against us and halt all oil exports to the United States. This would cripple us because we import 50% of our energy needs from this region and because of the past administration ignoring it's duties by not having an energy policy. If the Arabs cut the flow of oil to the U.S. we would be in a world of doo doo. I expect the President of the United States to look out for our best interest, and to handle the middle east as if their problems could be compared to our efforts in eliminating terrorist organizations with "Global Reach" is absurd and would undermine our national security. It's in our best interest not to see the situation between Arafat and Sharon go global, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

7 posted on 04/14/2002 12:37:18 AM PDT by MJY1288
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To: JohnHuang2
BUSH WILL GIVE IN TO THE INTERNATIONALISTS!

The insanity of global rule is well on the way, and no Bush has ever stood in the way of it!

"NEW WORLD ORDER", President Bush sr.


8 posted on 04/14/2002 12:39:22 AM PDT by antidemocommie
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To: JohnHuang2
My cat box contains many gifts for the supporters of the international court, and the new world disorder.
9 posted on 04/14/2002 12:40:20 AM PDT by antidemocommie
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To: antidemocommie
Can you name me one example of THIS president caving in to the U.N.?

I just read an article that said George W. Bush will undo Clinton's signature on this U.N. treaty. Your New World Order fears were justified with GHW Bush, but I challenge you to show me any facts that back up your paranoia that this President will allow the U.N. to undermine our soveriegnty

10 posted on 04/14/2002 12:46:00 AM PDT by MJY1288
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To: MJY1288
"Import 50% of our energy needs"

Inaccurate. We import 30% of our oil from the arab states......not 50% of our energy.

In fact, upon the imposition of an arab oil embargo one could expect the ecomnomic impact would reduce our oil consumption in a relatively equal fashion.

Assuming the arabs continue to export to europe and Japan etc., the impact on the world economy would be limited to the time it took for prices to stabilize and new buyer-supplier relationships to be formed.

However, the US could CRIPPLE BOTH the arabs and europe with an oil blockade.........a strategic weapon best left unbrandished unless the embargo emerges.

The impact of a blockade would be to crush the economies of all who are in opposition to us today...........at some considerable, but recoverable, domestic economic disruption. After the election in Nov, all bets are off.

Save money and reduce debt.

11 posted on 04/14/2002 12:53:19 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: JohnHuang2
When – not if, but when – CIA or FBI agents, or U.S. soldiers are captured while trying to rid the world of terrorists, they will be subject to the ICC.

That is not going to sit well with Oprah-and-football-watching Mr. and Mrs. Joe Sikspak - any self-assured opinions to the contrary of the American Left, about how well their media running dogs have succeeded in drugging the Sikspaks into senselessness, notwithsatanding.

If the U.N. actually tries a stunt like that, it very well might set a chain of events in motion that *will* result in the U.S. withdrawing from the U.N. - or just withholding funds for its support, either of which will send it into its final tailspin.

American politicians of all stripes are *not* going to like having to explain to their constituents why they're standing by and letting American soldiers and government officials be tried by foreign governments for defending American interests.

I really don't think this is going anywhere... but I almost hope it is. In the words of a German philosopher whose name I wish I could remember, "Better a horrible end, than a horror without end".

12 posted on 04/14/2002 12:57:42 AM PDT by fire_eye
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To: Mariner
Since I am only relying on what I have seen on the mainstream news and uttered by our politicians who want us to drill in ANWAR, I can't debate your figures and will stand corrected on the exact figures.

But I still feel it's in our best interest not to have the middle east turn into a regional conflict involving the Arab nations. I do not expect this president or any other president of this country to apply the standards in which we fight terrorism to anyone other than us. I feel it is wrong to say that Bush is waffling on his stand against terroism and I feel it was wrong for Israel to compare what happened on Sept 11th to their struggle.

13 posted on 04/14/2002 1:06:19 AM PDT by MJY1288
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To: DoughtyOne

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"The ICC is NOT A WAR CRIMES COURT. It is a global in scope legal system that can and will exert it's authority over every nation state on the planet. All the UN has to do is declare something a crime against humanity and the court swings into action.

What constitutes a crime against humanity? Does Israel's current actions? Would a church entity that spoke out against abortion? Would a church entity that spoke out against homosexuality? Would a nation that used up more resources than a poor nation be guilty of a crime against humanity? Would a nation that refused to manage it's land in accordance with UN dictates be committing a crime against humanity? What about a nation that emitted too much carbon emissions? What that be a crime against humanity?

Folks, this court is the Devil's fondest desire. It is pure evil. It's activities are inevitably going to turn toward the dark side. Ignore this at your own risk."
8 posted on 4/11/02 12:00 PM Pacific by DoughtyOne

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"Dear Doughty One,

I have attended negotiations sessions for the ICC. I am very familiar with the statute, and with the anti-religious, anti-family, radical leftist and feminists groups who promoted it, and sat in national chairs negotiating it. You are exactly right."
9 posted on 4/11/02 12:05 PM Pacific by lady lawyer

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14 posted on 04/14/2002 2:34:01 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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