Gun Training Class Offered to Abused Women

The Oregonian ^ | Apr. 12, 2002 | Robin Franzen

[Tuba-Dude]

Sweet mother of all that is sacred...A PRO-2nd AMENDMENT GROUP IN OREGON! Man, I feel a bit dizzy...my left arm is starting to tingle, too. It's a good thing to see some folks with common sense up here--and we need more gun owners, too. People up here are such wusses when it comes to firearms...

[spqrzilla9]

I thought that Oregon was 'shall issue'.

Note that all the gun control advocates comments are full of lies.

[Shooter 2.5]

But advocates working to reduce firearms deaths at the Washington, D.C.,-based Violence Policy Center bristle at the suggestion that increased gun ownership is an appropriate response to violence. They contend that for every time a woman used a handgun to kill an intimate acquaintance in self-defense in 1998, another 83 women were killed by an intimate acquaintance with a handgun.

That's because the VPC has successfully disarmed the abused women. I don't understand why the VPC doesn't issued a statement that they really believe in, that women are too stupid to use a gun.

[Shooter 2.5]

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[Tuba-Dude]

Shameless self-bump.

[HiJinx]

Bump-Ping

Hey guys, either of you have a hand in this one?

[xm177e2]

"From a public health perspective, that's certainly not the message I would want to send," said Nancy Glass, a professor in the School of Nursing at Oregon Health & Science University who has researched intimate partner homicide. "In my view, arming people is a very short-sighted response to a public health crisis."

Leftists consider spouse abuse to be "a public health crisis!" It's always a public crisis, because that justifies government involvement. And it's a "health crisis," not a crime, so the solution is a holistic effort on the part of the government, not a crackdown.

To the leftists, everything is a damned "public health crisis." They probably consider suicide bombings in Israel to be "a public health crisis."

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

Re: "From a public health perspective, that's certainly not the message I would want to send," said Nancy Glass, a professor in the School of Nursing at Oregon Health & Science University who has researched intimate partner homicide. "In my view, arming people is a very short-sighted response to a public health crisis."

EXCUSE ME! But a woman getting raped is NOT part of a public health crises. She is a victim of VIOLENT CRIME. Call it a HATE CRIME, idiot liberal nursing professor. Sheesh, I am ANGRY!

[another cricket]

They contend that for every time a woman used a handgun to kill an intimate acquaintance in self-defense in 1998, another 83 women were killed by an intimate acquaintance with a handgun.

That is because their attackers were armed and they weren't ya dopes!

I don't understand why the VPC doesn't issued a statement that they really believe in, that women are too stupid to use a gun.

They must watch Lifetime. Does the poor victim use one of the many weapons sitting around the set? No! She runs or cowers in the corner. If by some crazy chance she manages to wound him does she follow through? No! She drops is and trys to run or cowers again. Stupid Twit!/rant

a. cricket

[Standing Wolf]

I've taught several women to shoot, including my ex-wife, who was a ban the guns leftist when we met. When we went our separate ways, she was packing her own .357 magnum with a concealed firearms permit. Some of the others were curious girl friends; others were friends of friends, and one was a woman whose ex-husband had put her in the hospital

People who don't own firearms are like
people who don't have fire extinguishers and first aid kits: unprepared!

[sarasmom]

Sound like VPC stands for Victim Procurement Center.

I have not taken gun training classes for many years, but I would guess they still stress that if you have not made the decision to shoot to kill in self defense, you may as well throw the gun away.

I have a few friends who I have advised NOT to get a gun, because they were not going to invest in training and had no other experience involving firearms.They just wanted one to "scare" an attacker.I think the training idea is a great idea.Some people,mostly women, just can't understand that once you take responcibility for your own self-defense the fear of attack is decreased.

Whether these women actually go on to own a gun or not, the intoduction to self-defense 101 will help them get over the victim mentality that allows abuse to continue.

[sarasmom]

intoduction=introduction. Sheesh.

[FITZ]

They also warn that a woman risks being prosecuted for murder if she kills her abuser without meeting the statutory requirements for justifiable homicide.

The laws need to be changed. The abuser isn't trying to meet the statutory requirements.

[Shooter 2.5]

Sounds like VPC stands for Victim Procurement Center.

That sounds exactly what they should be called. If you don't mind, I want to use that as much as I can.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

"Like it or not, a firearm is the great equalizer," Anderson said. "A 90-pound woman can defend herself against a 300-pound (man)."

EXACTLY with proper training a little lady could be weilding a 44 mag in no time in self defence!!!

[basil]

Having worked with Lisanne in Second Amendment Sisters, I am happy to see her quoted here. She is very careful to state that when she is training a woman, she wants to make sure that SHE thinks the woman is capable of owning and using a gun if the need should arise--otherwise, she will not pass the woman.

As an older, small woman, I carry my weapon at all times. It's like my fire insurance--something I have that I hope I never need!

Bump for women everywhere being able to defend themselves!!!

[Wonder Warthog]

"In my reading of the literature, it's hard to use a gun appropriately at the right time and not at the wrong time," said gun-injury researcher David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. "Even police officers who have lots of training can use their guns at the wrong time."

Perhaps, Mr. Hemenway, if you read some "literature" other than Violence Policy Center press releases, you might actually find some verified research FACTS, like the one that shows that citizen gun owners actually do a FAR better job than police of actually identifying and HITTING the bad guy when using a firearm defensively.

[technochick99]

Lisanne is the Oregon coordinator for SAS!

[technochick99]

bump

[shekkian]

How about we get Nancy Glass a date with a violent, abusive ex-con and see if she figures it out.