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The Real Abraham Lincoln
The Laissez Faire Electronic Times ^ | Tibor R. Machan

Posted on 04/12/2002 7:49:37 AM PDT by Sir Gawain

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To: rdf
bttt
241 posted on 04/15/2002 6:58:52 PM PDT by rdf
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To: Ditto
Sure, dit. Whatever you say, son.
242 posted on 04/16/2002 3:34:22 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: rdf
So, you republicans are coming up with test oaths again, huh? Hold your breath until I get around to signing, will you?
243 posted on 04/16/2002 3:38:10 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: rdf
Their ancestors lived in delusion and so do they. They cry about Reconstruction and then cheer the death of the man who would have made it very different. It reminds me of the 1960s West Berlin socialists crying about American imperalism.

These people are losers.

244 posted on 04/16/2002 5:42:32 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: rdf
"While serving in Congress, Lincoln was an outspoken supporter of the Marxist/socialist revolutions in Europe going on at the time. In 1861, Honest Abe sought to free the South from itself. Four years, billions of dollars in property loss and debt, and 600,000 lost lives later, Lincoln got his wish and our modern day federal government in Washington is the fruit of his labor. Don't everybody cheer at once." --MATTHEW CHANCEY
245 posted on 04/16/2002 6:27:31 AM PDT by one2many
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To: Ditto
Lincoln would have made reconstruction different only in ways which wouldn't have affected anyone except the radical republicans who had him killed. This habit you kids have of calling other people "losers" reveals what uneducated children you are.

What is it that keeps you posting to a conservative forum? You aren't a conservative by any stretch of the imagination and you're obviously only nominally an American. You and your little academic chums should toddle off and find someplace where government worship and bashing of the Constitution is an accepted norm. May I suggest the Declaration foundation's little site? Take your Gore worshipping pal Wlat with you.

246 posted on 04/16/2002 7:05:59 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: Twodees
Lincoln would have made reconstruction different only in ways which wouldn't have affected anyone except the radical republicans who had him killed.

Oh boy! Is this DiLorenzo's next scam to rip you losers off?

This habit you kids have of calling other people "losers" reveals what uneducated children you are.

What is it that keeps you posting to a conservative forum? You aren't a conservative by any stretch of the imagination and you're obviously only nominally an American. You and your little academic chums should toddle off and find someplace where government worship and bashing of the Constitution is an accepted norm. May I suggest the Declaration foundation's little site? Take your Gore worshipping pal Wlat with you.

Your snotty little attitude tells me that you have nothing intelligent to say so you simply demand that I go away. That is called a loser where I come from. I have been a Conservative since Barry Goldwater ran for president and I take a back seat to no one in my credentials. Part of being a conservative is understanding history, facing reality, and being prepared to debate issues from a background of knowledge, not resorting to childish insults as you are apt to do.

Live you myths all you want, but you will never be anything but a loser until you face reality.

247 posted on 04/16/2002 7:56:32 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: one2many
Who is Matthew Chancy and what is his documentation that Lincoln supported Marxist Revolutions?

In 1848, had anyone ever heard the term Marxist?

What were the Revolutions of 1848 about?

Would you as a Loyal Son of the South been for or against them?

248 posted on 04/16/2002 8:01:21 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto
Why one earth would I explain anything to you you little statist Apester?

"The Gettysburg speech was at once the shortest and the most famous oration in American history... the highest emotion reduced to a few poetical phrases. Lincoln himself never even remotely approached it. It is genuinely stupendous. But let us not forget that it is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense. Think of the argument in it. Put it into the cold words of everyday. The doctrine is simply this: that the Union soldiers who died at Gettysburg sacrificed their lives to the cause of self-determination -- that government of the people, by the people, for the people, should not perish from the earth. IT IS DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE ANYTHING MORE UNTRUE. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of their people to govern themselves." -- H.L. Mencken

This explains you and the other Apesters:

"The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of the nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell a big one." -- Adolf Hitler - "Mein Kampf" - (1926)

249 posted on 04/16/2002 8:41:20 AM PDT by one2many
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To: one2many
Why one earth would I explain anything to you you little statist Apester?

More Southern charm?

Could it be that you don't have a clue what any of those answers would be?

Come on --- tell us all about the “Marxist” Revolutions that Lincoln supported.

250 posted on 04/16/2002 8:50:09 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto
You sound like my four year old did before I set her straight about using that silly Valley Girl term "loser". What silliness. Go log in under your DU username and post to them about what a bunch of losers conservatives are. that's all you're doing here anyway.
251 posted on 04/17/2002 5:51:48 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: Ditto
You really don't know about the communist/socialist revolutions in Europe in 1848? Given the way you gush over Lincoln and Stevens you probably believe that the '48ers' were freedom fighters trying to throw off royal rule.

You need to develop a frame of reference before anyone can explain anything to you. It's a waste of time telling you anything anyway. You just skim responses to you looking for a hook to hang another of your inane remarks on.

252 posted on 04/17/2002 5:58:39 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: Twodees
Given the way you gush over Lincoln and Stevens you probably believe that the '48ers' were freedom fighters trying to throw off royal rule.

LOL. Why don't you tell us who ran Europe in 48.

253 posted on 04/17/2002 6:52:04 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto
More great stuff on the mendacious Dr. D. coming soon.

Stay tuned!

Cheers,

Richard F.

254 posted on 04/20/2002 7:43:46 PM PDT by rdf
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To: Sir Gawain
THE APE WAS A TYRANT!

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FROM: http://www.historychannel.com/

POLL RESULTS

What was the primary cause of the Civil War?

Slavery 28% 938 votes
State's rights 56% 1916 votes
Trade and tariff policy 9% 318 votes
Western expansion 3% 93 votes
Other 4% 130 votes

Total: Total Votes: 3,395

255 posted on 05/02/2002 1:36:32 PM PDT by one2many
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