Posted on 04/12/2002 7:49:37 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
President Lincoln didn't violate the Constitution.
The rationale for the EP was his use of the war powers bestowed on the president as commander in chief of the armed forces. Under those, as President Lincoln saw it, he could only act on areas where the insurgent forces had control. That is what drove the areas covered by the EP. As president, in the normal course of adminstration, the president had no power to affect slavery. And if you take out the 13th amendment, he still would not, in the Constitution as written.
Walt
President Lincoln was shot the night of April 14, and died the next morning a little after 7AM.
I saw a thing on forensic medicine that was not about Lincoln per se. But they made the point that the doctors probing the wound may have caused more damage to Lincoln's brain than the bullet did. The bullet fragmented and was small any way. In that sense, there was nothing substantial to find. They probed because that was all they knew to do.
Now, I remember reading years ago that the bullet entered behind Lincoln's left ear and lodged behind his right eye, so this was a departure frm that. Any way, the long metal probes, this show supposed, may have caused more damage than the actual bullet.
"The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves and then we shall save our country.
Fellow citizens, we cannot escape history. We of this congress and this administration shall be remembered in spite of ourselves. No personal significance or insignificance can spare one or another of us. The fiery trial through which we pass will light us down in honor or dishonor unto the latest generation. We say we are for the Union. The world will not forget that we say this. We know how to save the Union. The world knows we do know how to save it. We--even we here--bear the responsibility. In giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free--honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth. Other means may succeed; this could not fail. The way is plain, peaceful, generous, just--a way which, if followed, the world will forever applaud, and God must forever bless."
12/01/62
Walt
I love recycling old Robin Williams' jokes.
Happy Sic Semper Tyrannus Day!
Lincoln's dead, but the tyranny he fathered lives on. Something to keep in mind as I file my "indentured servitude: property of the state" payments today.
What law was that, please?
Walt
That's why Lee's army was allowed to keep their horses, why Grant had 25,000 rations sent over to Lee's men after the surrender, and why every single person arrested on habeas corpus and treason charges was released unharmed?
That suh, is one of the preeminent questions of our times!
LOL! ;^)
General Lee phrased it another way:
"We could have pursued no other course without dishonor. And sad as the results have been, if it had all to be done over again, we should be compelled to act in precisely the same manner." --General Robert E. Lee, C.S.A. [cited in The Memorial Volume of Jefferson Davis by J. William Jones, 1889, Sprinkle Publications, p. 309]
(Forgive me Lord)
"Our Lord God must be a devout man to be able to love knaves.
I myself cant do it, although I am a knave myself." --MARTIN LUTHER
Damned if he does and damed if he doesn't. Nice try, but exactly what part of the Constitution did Lincoln violate when South Carolina trashed the Constitution and fired on the Stars and Stripes?
Slaves were not freed in the Border States because Lincoln had no constitutional authority to free them. Only the states themselves could do that (and several did during the course of the war), or congress and the states through an amendment to the constitution which happened in 1865. The EP only applied to states in rebellion and was issued as a military order allowing the seizing and disposition of property' that could be of use to the rebels or could be used in the Union cause.
It was perfectly constitutional, and unlike the historical fantasy these neo-confederate revisionists promote, Lincoln had far more respect for the Constitution than any of the so-called Southern patriots. Those are the same SOBs who pushed through the unconstitutional Fugitive Slave Act that trampled over states rights and then had the arrogance to cite the objections of Northern states to that constitutional monstrosity as an excuse to break the Union. Those filthy slavers only cared about maintaining their wealth in slaves and never gave a damn about the constitution.
I think you need to stop soft-pedaling your opinions and say what you think.
Walt
LOL!! That's why he IGNORED Article I Section 8 completely is it?(those are powers reserved FOR Congress, you do remember them don't you? Those were the people that were mysteriously absent for three months while abe got the war machine going) Wow, the Militia Act covered everything didn't it? Absconding funds, building ships, heck I'm suprised lincoln didn't try recreating the Great Wall of China along the northern borders
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