[Colt .45]

To speak of "innocent civilians" is nothing but pure Horse Sh*t anyway. The only innocents are between 1 and 8 years of age. Anything else is collateral damage. When a civilian works at a factory turning out arms for their country's defense ... they're NOT innocent. When they give aid and comfort to an enemy, they are NOT innocent. WW2 was total war, no well defined boundaries and "No Fire" zones. Being in the military all I can tell you is that in wartime you pay your nickle and take your chances. If you happen to end up a casualty of war, thems the breaks. All the whining about Israel kicking ass on the Palestinians is being done by those who don't have enough spine to fight for their beliefs.

These peaceniks are the next generation of "cattle" who will be the first in line when the dictators start lining people up for the boxcar ride to the extermination camp.

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

These peaceniks are the next generation of "cattle" who will be the first in line when the dictators start lining people up for the boxcar ride to the extermination camp.

When I was in high school, the local police department would display several totalled autos in front of the school each spring about prom time as a warning against drinking and driving. I think the impact saved lives.

All high school students should visit an exact replica of a concentration camp as General Eisenhower saw it in 1945. The victims could be wax figures, but the smell and the sound of suffering could be added by Steven Spielberg's buddies.

[freeeee]

The only innocents are between 1 and 8 years of age. Anything else is collateral damage. When a civilian works at a factory turning out arms for their country's defense ... they're NOT innocent. When they give aid and comfort to an enemy, they are NOT innocent.

I'm not going to say whether or not I agree with this.

I just have one question: If the same were done to us, would you accept this as a valid defense from an enemy officer at a war crimes trial? Would you acquit an enemy officer who ordered such attacks against us?

Please don't take this as an attack on you. I'm just curious if this cuts both ways.

If other freepers have opinions on this, I'd like to hear them.

[xm177e2]

When a civilian works at a factory turning out arms for their country's defense ... they're NOT innocent. When they give aid and comfort to an enemy, they are NOT innocent. WW2 was total war, no well defined boundaries and "No Fire" zones. Being in the military all I can tell you is that in wartime you pay your nickle and take your chances. If you happen to end up a casualty of war, thems the breaks.

The workers in the World Trade Center were making a fortune for Uncle Sam, and helping him to project his power around the world. That attack was not a criminal matter, it was an act of war. Now we have to root out and destroy our enemy every bit as ruthlessly as they've attacked us.

[Euro-American Scum]

These peaceniks are the next generation of "cattle" who will be the first in line when the dictators start lining people up for the boxcar ride to the extermination camp.

No, the peacenicks are the first ones to cut a deal with this or that tyrant because their view is that all people are basically good except for the injustices done to them.

The peacenicks end up in the concentration camps anyway but not for lack of licking the jackboots of the despots they fully expect to feed them.

[gcallah]

And, I imagine, you will be helping to line them up.

[RobbyS]

The principle became well-established after the Thirty years War. The French developed a commissary system that enabled them to make war without totally "living off the land." The cost of large armies further encouraged the practice of limiting t she size of armies and to turn the thing into a chess match by aiming mainly at the opposing force.