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Strong women are better for sex, guys (Dowd Alert!)
National Post (via the NYT) ^ | April 11, 2002 | Maureen Dowd

Posted on 04/11/2002 11:32:27 AM PDT by Grig

At the opening of The Sweet Smell of Success last month, a successful New York guy I know took me aside for a lecture that was anything but sweet.

He said he had wanted to ask me out on a date when he was between marriages, but nixed the idea because my job made me too intimidating.

Men, he told me, prefer women who seem malleable and overawed. He said I would never find a mate, because if there's one thing men fear, it's a woman who uses her critical faculties. Will she be critical of absolutely everything?

Now comes Time magazine with an equally distressing commentary. The cover story offers the scariest statistics for women since Newsweek declared in 1986 that a 40-year-old woman was more likely to be killed by a terrorist than tie the knot.

Time chronicles the new baby bust -- women who focus too much on their careers suddenly realizing they've squandered their fertility.

Sylvia Ann Hewlett, an economist, conducted a survey and found that 55% of 35-year-old career women are childless. Between a third and half of 40-year-old professional women are childless. The number of childless women age 40 to 44 has doubled in the past 20 years. And among corporate executives who earn $100,000 or more, she says, 49% of the women did not have children, compared with only 10% of the men.

Hewlett, the author of Creating a Life: Professional Women and the Quest for Children, observes, yet again, that men have an unfair advantage.

"Nowadays," she says, "the rule of thumb seems to be that the more successful the woman, the less likely it is she will find a husband or bear a child. For men, the reverse is true."

On a 60 Minutes report on the book Sunday, Lesley Stahl talked to two young women who go to Harvard Business School. They agreed that while they are the perfect age to start families, it was not so easy to find the right mates.

Men, apparently, learn early to protect their eggshell egos from high-achieving women.

The girls said they hid the fact that they go to Harvard from guys they meet, because it's the kiss of death. "The H-bomb," they call it.

"As soon as you say Harvard Business School ... that's the end of the conversation," Ani Vartanian said. "As soon as the guys say, 'Oh, I go to Harvard Business School,' all the girls start falling into them."

So the moral of the story is, the more women accomplish, the more they have to sacrifice?

The problem here is not only that women are procrastinating too long; it is that men veer away from "challenging" women because they have an atavistic desire to be the superior force in a relationship.

In the immortal words of Cher: Snap out of it, guys.

Male logic on dating down is bollixed up: Women who seem in awe of you in the beginning won't stay in awe once they get to know you. Women who don't have demanding jobs are not less demanding in relationships; indeed, they may be more demanding. They're saving up all that competitive energy and critical faculty to lavish on you when you get home.

If men would only give up their silly desire for world dominance, the world would be a much finer place.

Look at the Taliban. Look at the Vatican. Now, look at the bonobo.

Bonobos, or pygmy chimpanzees, live in the equatorial rain forests of Congo and have an extraordinarily happy existence.

And why? Because in bonobo society, the females are dominant. Just light dominance, so that it is more like a co-dominance or equality between the sexes.

"They are less obsessed with power and status than their chimpanzee cousins, and more consumed with Eros," The Times' Natalie Angier has written. "Bonobos use sex to appease, to bond, to make up after a fight, to ease tensions, to cement alliances ... Humans generally wait until after a nice meal to make love; bonobos do it beforehand."

The males were happy to give up a little dominance once they realized the deal they were being offered: all those aggressive female primates, after a busy day of dominating their jungle, were primed for sex, not for the withholding of it.

There's no battle of the sexes in bonoboland. And there's no baby bust.


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To: laurav
"....fragile male egos can't handle it."

Typical sexist American woman. Please prove me wrong by pointing out some scientific data you researched that indicates that men have "fragile ego's" other then sexist bs. Please don't let me think your one of those typical sexist women who use emotion, not fact, to stereotype men and draw conclusions. Oh, I'm sorry, you and your friends got together and decided. How scientific!

Your sexist mentality has been dully noted.

201 posted on 04/19/2002 11:57:22 AM PDT by smithson
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To: RnMomof7
Aw, shucks, I was just tweakin' "laurav".
202 posted on 04/21/2002 6:06:18 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: smithson; RnMomof7; Orthodox Presbyterian;
I don't think it's the ego thing. I think it's the "wife at home focused on thing" thing. Why does Dowd insinuate that a woman at Harvard Business School is both smarter and more successful than a woman raising a family.

I'd say that it's THOSE women running AWAY from the truly DIFFICULT. If it's so easy, why aren't they CHOOSING IT?

203 posted on 05/01/2002 4:58:29 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins
correction: wife at home focused on thing SHOULD BE wife at home focused on FAMILY thing.
204 posted on 05/01/2002 5:04:18 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Bryan
Nice muscles.
206 posted on 05/01/2002 6:07:34 AM PDT by Steve0113
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To: xzins
Wow I never know where you will run into you..

I was smarter when I worked..at least I think I was:>))

207 posted on 05/01/2002 6:34:54 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: laurav
Smart answer.
208 posted on 05/03/2002 7:14:43 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: weikel
well I have a different opinion. A woman that has her stuff together wants a real man that makes her feel like a wild sexy real woman after she's had a full day at work. I have an odd background and been married to a weak guy, so that's likely why I like being with a man that has his stuff together too, but even some of them might not get that I want them to be themselves and ditch whatever they thought other women that aren't like me want. This is an issue because they’re so under the gun not to act like a man and that just sucks and makes stuff confusing for them and someone like me that could give a tinkers damn for the BS sensitive crap other chicks want. I like the un-screwed with nature of a guy: they say what they mean and don't have a bunch of irrelevant crap to waste my time with. What is the best way for a chick like me to get it across to a guy that I would just rather a guy be a guy & not think I want him to change being a man like these other chicks want? (need guy answers only please) Thanks
209 posted on 10/26/2008 8:36:25 PM PDT by freepublicuser1 (need some man answers on this myself)
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