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Van Dam Trial Transcripts, Complete: Testimony continues to vary from previous statements.
San Diego Superior Court/Union Trib ^ | April 9, 2002 | San Diego Superior Court-Kristen Green

Posted on 04/09/2002 11:30:44 AM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: RnMomof7
Now, that doesn't sound like much fun. It's been a crazy day here too...good to see ya..
121 posted on 04/09/2002 7:27:04 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: wonders
That explains that, thank you.
122 posted on 04/09/2002 7:30:30 PM PDT by vacrn
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To: rolling_stone
DW was not contacted until 8:50 a.m. well over an hour after returning home. If he had been a "prime" suspect since a 4 a.m. debriefing, why was there no one waiting for him at his home, his place of business or at the rv storage site?

Not in a rush to locate him, IMO. That is done with an APB. If DW was a hot tip, or the parents had strongly hinted at, much less blatantly pointed a finger at him, there would have been an APB, possibly a federal one. If you have a strong suspicion of a traveling MH with a possible kidnap victim, that might possibly cross state lines, you put out an APB. Not wait for them to return home after disposing of the victim.

The theory that DW was a prime suspect or fingered before the first interview does not fit, not in LE procedures, or LE behavior. Look how aggressive they got after first contact, when their suspicions were aroused. If their suspicions were aroused prior to that interview either from tipline info, or parental statements, where was that aggression then?

123 posted on 04/09/2002 7:31:35 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: FresnoDA
Come on fres, the HTML code shrieker, you have to admit, was great for a laugh.
124 posted on 04/09/2002 7:33:17 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
Being a VD spokesperson is a strange title...

Do you suppose she is a VERY close "family "friend??

125 posted on 04/09/2002 7:34:46 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: FresnoDA
I am indebted to you for preserving and enshrining my masterpiece.

Tis true, I did accurately call FDA names and I retract none of them. His primary motivation is titillation of his readers.

But it was weeks ago and a different thread.

126 posted on 04/09/2002 7:37:11 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1
Val, as usual, logic fails you. Two police officers give the same reason why they looked at Westerfield, but you dismiss it. To you, black is white and white is black. Listen to the clip, read the article. They went after Westerfield because someone tipped them. They simply did not have time to investigate and clear all the 184 households where Danielle had tried to sell cookies, the "house guests" at the van Dams, and the people who watched Brenda and Babs do the hootchykootch at Dad's Bar (and Swingers meeting place). But then, they didn't have to. They had a short-cut: a tip.

You can ask until the moon turns blue why there was no apb, and while you're at it, you can also ask why the police wouldn't permit Westerfield to call his attorney even though he asked some 22 times in 19 hours. You can also ask, while you're at it, why they misled the press about the porn, the bleach, and other items. The real "logic problems" here seem to be with someone who assumes that the police are following standard procedures, when it's apparent that they are not.

127 posted on 04/09/2002 7:49:34 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: Valpal1
Tis true, I did accurately call FDA names and I retract none of them. His primary motivation is titillation of his readers.

Congratulations upon your promotion Val....you have surpassed kimbo as not only the lead VD Apologist, but as the poster wth the shortest memory as well.......

Point of order still stands......

Spectre.....seems that this question was posed to you above, and by the VD apologist rules, I can not answer...boo hooo....it is so easy dashing their vapid arguments.....so, you can have at it......

FresnoDA!!!


To: spectre

Please point out posts where I have name called.

103 posted on 4/9/02 6:10 PM Pacific by Valpal1

128 posted on 04/09/2002 7:56:26 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Valpal1; NatureGirl
More clues as to why he became primary suspect. Also, testimony from police officers to investigators etc., can also be a reason to see a person as being the primary suspect.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/634811/posts

Westerfield became the main suspect within days of the girl's disappearance when he consented to, and failed, a polygraph test, several sources have said


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/644715/posts?page=56#56
http://www.thesandiegochannel.com/
Neighbor: Scratches and sweating, overly cooperative Posted: 6:19 p.m. PST March 11, 2002 SAN DIEGO -- A scratched-up David Westerfield was "overly cooperative" when detectives questioned him two days after 7-year-old Danielle van Dam was discovered missing, according to preliminary hearing testimony Monday. Detective Johnny Keene said Westerfield had numerous small scratches on his hand and arm when he was interviewed on his front porch the morning of Feb. 4. Keene was the final witness on the first day of the hearing to determine if there is sufficient evidence to send the girl's accused killer on to trial. "In my opinion, he was overly cooperative," Keene said. "I've been doing this for 16 years. Typically, when we search people's houses, they don't point out places to look. Usually, they ask why we're searching their house."

129 posted on 04/09/2002 7:59:37 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Valpal1
DW was not contacted until 8:50 a.m. well over an hour after returning home. If he had been a "prime" suspect since a 4 a.m. debriefing, why was there no one waiting for him at his home, his place of business or at the rv storage site?

How do you know what time he returned home? What time did he drop clothes off at the cleaners? It appears there were people waiting near his house, maybe they were going to "surveil" him as mentioned at the briefing then changed their mind. Does DW have a place of business and would he likely be there on the weekend after taking off in his MH? How would the PD know where he stores his MH, it is a private location. Besides that, the PD might have taken a morning run for coffee and donuts and such before they got to really looking for him.

You have your opinion, and I have mine, I don't know what Brenda said but it appears to be an issue in the case. Amazing, nothing was brought up at the PH about what Brenda told the PD. We might see more about this issue at the motions hearing....

130 posted on 04/09/2002 7:59:44 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: FresnoDA
Do you want us to dig up the creative insults that you have spewed? I'd rather not.
131 posted on 04/09/2002 8:01:11 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
That's right. Ignore what the officers said. They don't know beans about police procedure. They're not police procedure geniuses like you and Val. You people are too much.
132 posted on 04/09/2002 8:03:53 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

I Dare ya!!!  In fact, I double dare ya!!!!  KIMBO....(That one doesn't count!!)....LOL, Hugz, Kicks, Socks, Punches....../sarcasm off


133 posted on 04/09/2002 8:04:51 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
Are you denying it or not?
134 posted on 04/09/2002 8:06:25 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: MizSterious
Oh yeah, that's right. You don't trust the sdpd. Do you think the FBI have been following this case and if so, do you think they are in the conspiracy?
135 posted on 04/09/2002 8:08:07 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: all
Let's have some logic here.

The more contact the prosecution can show between the suspect and the victim's family the better it is for the prosecution to show means and opportunity.

The scant relationship attested to by the Van Dams does not benefit them or the prosecution of the alleged killer of their daughter. They have no self benefiting motive to lie to make the relationship appear less and lying in such a manner could harm the hoped for conviction.

They have a real and plausible motive to lie and make the relationship appear more extensive to create a greater appearance of means and opportunity.

However, they are not engaged in the rational, self benefitting latter, but same claim they are engaged in the irrational self harming former.

I think they might be doing neither, but telling the simple truth, that there was a simple, shallow, casual neighborhood aquaintance and no more.

As for the dancing dispute, I have two working theories, one BVD was "toasted" and can't really remember if she danced with him or not, but thinks/hopes/wishes not. Two, that Feldman has come up with some real rotters/barflies who are willing to perjure themselves for money, fame, attention, or to feed some grandiose delusion of their own.

I do not discount the theory that BVD did have an illicit relationship, unkown to her husband, but we will never know because the defense won't go there. Not only do father's kill children to punish the mother, but so do ex-boyfriends and spurned lovers.

136 posted on 04/09/2002 8:09:24 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: MizSterious

police procedure geniuses    LOL....

Here is another self-appointed PPG.......

 

137 posted on 04/09/2002 8:10:15 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
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Don't do it kimbo....the heat will get hot, but it will refine you, like fire......

138 posted on 04/09/2002 8:11:50 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Valpal1

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139 posted on 04/09/2002 8:13:21 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I've never said there was a conspiracy. Please direct your conspiracy questions to the tin foil hat forums. As far as the FBI goes, as has been explained before, the FBI was NOT active in the case. They were there to help if needed, but they were not running this case. What is so hard to understand about that? Are the words still too big?
140 posted on 04/09/2002 8:13:27 PM PDT by MizSterious
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