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Illinois Hunters and Sportsmen Stage Protest Against Gun Control Proposal-Il Gun owners, Please read
Illinois State Rifle Association E Mail Alert ^ | 4-9-02

Posted on 04/09/2002 9:32:37 AM PDT by SJackson

To: State Desk Contact: Richard Pearson of the Illinois State Rifle Association, 815-635-3198; Web site: http://www.isra.org

CHICAGO, April 8 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA):

In response to what is being billed as a preview of life under Governor Blagojevich, the ISRA is advising hunters and sportsmen to register their opposition to a gun control proposal scheduled to come before the Des Plaines City Council on April 15th.

Under that proposal, Des Plaines residents would be required to surrender many of their lawfully owned firearms to the police or face jail time. Furthermore, Des Plaines residents would be prohibited from purchasing or possessing many popular calibers of sporting and hunting ammunition. Another provision would post the names and addresses of Des Plaines gun owners, along with an inventory of their guns, to an Internet-style database. The courts would not regulate access to that database, thus leaving it readily available to a wide variety of people - including gang-affiliated employees of the Chicago Police Department.

City council member Don Smith is sponsoring the proposed Des Plaines gun control ordinance. Smith, an ally of Chicago mayor Richie Daley, is championing the proposal in support of Daley's attempt to establish a 100-mile zone around Chicago where civilians are prohibited from owning firearms. Smith introduced a similar ordinance several years ago, but saw his proposal die in committee.

For its part, the ISRA is alerting its members to the proposal and asking that members contact the Des Plaines City Hall to voice their opposition to the plan. Hunters and sportsmen are also being asked to attend the April 15th Des Plaines City Council meeting during which the proposal will be introduced.

"It's no secret that the Des Plaines gun control proposal was drafted on the 5th Floor of Chicago City Hall," said ISRA president Richard Pearson. "It matches word-for-word Mayor Daley's call for a program to eliminate gun owners from the suburbs. Having found a willing mule in Alderman Don Smith, Daley thinks he owns the Des Plaines City Council. This is an excellent opportunity for the residents of Des Plaines to remind Daley that it is their city and that they don't need Chicago-style gun control."

"It's also no accident that much of what is in the Des Plaines proposal mirrors the legislative record of gubernatorial candidate Rod Blagojevich," continued Pearson. "Blagojevich has spent most of his political career trying to abolish the law-abiding citizen's right to keep and bear arms. Gun owners across the state need only look to the Des Plaines ordinance for a preview of what life would be like for them should Blagojevich be elected governor next November. The issue of gun control is pervasive in Chicago politics. Daley and Blagojevich are fixtures in the Chicago political scene. The connection is clear. "

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The ISRA is the state's leading advocate of safe, lawful and responsible firearms ownership. For nearly a century, the ISRA has represented the interests of over 1.5 million law-abiding Illinois firearm owners.

http://www.usnewswire.com -0- /U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/ 04/08 19:24

Copyright 2002, U.S. Newswire


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To: SJackson
Smith, an ally of Chicago mayor Richie Daley, is championing the proposal in support of Daley's attempt to establish a 100-mile zone around Chicago where civilians are prohibited from owning firearms.

when they banned guns in England, crime skyrocketed. But if they ban guns in and around Chicago, it will make the crime increase in England look like an Amish Church Picnic!

This looks like the largest testing ground ever attempted for total gun confiscation in the US. Has there ever been a larger attempt?

What exactly is this 100 mile zone? Is 100 miles the radius, or the diameter of this zone? If it's the radius, and the ultimate plan goes through, then that would mean 31,400 square miles of US territory would be land where nobody would have the right to own a gun. (7,850 square miles if it's just a 50 mile radius)

Fortunately, I don't think the brains of these people have completely drained out of their heads. This will surely never see the light of day. If it does, however...
41 posted on 04/10/2002 12:32:41 AM PDT by VRWC_Member428
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To: SJackson
I support you...I'm just pinging an idiot who tried to take me to task on another thread. He basically implied by his "we take care of business in Ill" that they don't care about the law, they just solve their problems by any means necessary. (In the context of "scumbags" who disturb a neighborhood with loud music)

For a purported conservative, #3idiot sure doesn't respect the rule of law.

42 posted on 04/10/2002 4:59:58 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: infowars
"...required to surrender many of their lawfully owned firearms to the police or face jail time."

Thanks for the ping/bookmarked. bttt

43 posted on 04/10/2002 11:12:31 AM PDT by ChaseR
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To: SJackson
"It's too late to work within the system, and too soon to shoot the bastards."

You guys may have to rethink this one.

44 posted on 04/10/2002 12:46:35 PM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: Abundy
I see how y'all "take care of business" in Illiniois...nice.

Chicago is the town of the mob, the Democratic machine, windy politicians, and vote fraud. That doesn't have much in common with my downstate mid-size town of German heritage, Catholic chuchgoers, manufacturers, and a discernable southern drawl. (I'm British descended and non-denominational, by the way.) For a big city Chicago is the greatest, though. Every city is liberal. Chicago is a more polite, rust belt city. It'd be less liberal if we could stop the Democratic vote fraud. Dan Rostenkowsky personifies the loudmouth corrupt Democratic politician.

Some day you might be forced to make a horrible choice as a gun owner...hope that day never comes

If that liberalism spreads this far south, that choice will be: Move to Texas!

45 posted on 04/10/2002 4:58:44 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: SJackson
The chances of Jim Ryan getting my vote are in the range of approximately 0% - 0%. Patrick O'Malley will get my write-in vote if that option is available to me.
46 posted on 04/10/2002 7:24:15 PM PDT by Mini-14
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To: Mini-14
The chances of Jim Ryan getting my vote are in the range of approximately 0% - 0%. Patrick O'Malley will get my write-in vote if that option is available to me.

I can't really criticize you for that. I'd love to see a viable third option (at least a Perot-in terms of support, not my guy-in the early days, a chance). I hope you can produce one. But without that option, a protest vote, or a write in, may be an act of conscience (that's what primaries are for), but it helps elect Governor rod.

47 posted on 04/10/2002 7:33:33 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: Abundy
I support you...I'm just pinging an idiot who tried to take me to task on another thread.

Who, no fun if I can't read about him.

48 posted on 04/10/2002 7:36:23 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: #3Fan
Chicago is the town of the mob, the Democratic machine, windy politicians, and vote fraud. That doesn't have much in common with my downstate mid-size town of German heritage, Catholic chuchgoers, manufacturers, and a discernable southern drawl. (I'm British descended and non-denominational, by the way.) For a big city Chicago is the greatest, though. Every city is liberal. Chicago is a more polite, rust belt city. It'd be less liberal if we could stop the Democratic vote fraud. Dan Rostenkowsky personifies the loudmouth corrupt Democratic politician.

Funny isn't it, for all the Dems, Chicago really isn't a liberal city.

49 posted on 04/10/2002 7:37:40 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Under that proposal, Des Plaines residents would be required to surrender many of their lawfully owned firearms to the police or face jail time.

There are other "choices" that can be made.

50 posted on 04/10/2002 7:40:29 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: coloradan, patton
Title 18 US Code chapter 13 Civil Rights; Sec. 241. Conspiracy against rights .....

I think you'd have a strong case, IF the judges follow the law, which is probably doubtful.

I also thing the proponents of gun control are guilty of sedition.

Sedition is defined as "conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of a state".

In America, the "authority of the state" is "We the People". Our will was expressed over 200 years ago in the Constitution. The Constitution is the supreme authority. That Constitution includes a clause recognizing our Right to keep and bear arms.

Under the "authority of the state" (i.e., the Constitution), the ONLY way that Constitution can be changed is by an amendment. All other methods are unlawful, and represent a "rebellion against the authority of the state". Therefore, such behavior (attempting to implement unconstitutional gun control) is seditious, and should be dealt with as such.

51 posted on 04/10/2002 7:47:30 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: SJackson
City council member Don Smith is sponsoring the proposed Des Plaines gun control ordinance. Smith, an ally of Chicago mayor Richie Daley, is championing the proposal in support of Daley's attempt to establish a 100-mile zone around Chicago where civilians are prohibited from owning firearms.

100 miles north of Chicago puts you a little north of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I wonder if Richie Daley is working on clearing guns out southern Wisconsin too?

52 posted on 04/10/2002 7:56:08 PM PDT by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness
Madison would go for it. Milwaukee, maybe. It would be a logical next step for the mayor and Governor Rod.
53 posted on 04/10/2002 8:19:43 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: Mulder
There are other "choices" that can be made.

I hope you're talking about hiring a lawyer. If it passes, that's the way this will be resolved.

54 posted on 04/10/2002 8:21:38 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
If Blagojevich gets in, the whole state of Illinois will be part of the 100 mile zone. Good Luck, guys. You're going to need it.
55 posted on 04/10/2002 8:51:56 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: SJackson
" If it passes, that's the way this will be resolved."

It won't be resolved in court. The way the Illinois Second Amendment is written the law is legal. The amendment reads: Subject to the police power, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That means they can do whatever they want until there is a U.S. Supreme Court ruling. What are the odds of that happening? Last time they didn't want to hear the case. Given time, Illinois is going to be an island of gun control surrounded by CCW states. I don't think anyone can imagine how bad crime will be then.

56 posted on 04/10/2002 8:59:22 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Shooter 2.5
If Blagojevich gets in, the whole state of Illinois will be part of the 100 mile zone. Good Luck, guys. You're going to need it.

You're right. Tell that to the conservative "third party" voters.

You're involved too, Texan. Little town, Morton Grove, next door, banned handguns. Federal appeals and all, lawyers, judges, even the Supremes (Court not singers). Now it's the law of the land. Your town can do it too. It's about all of us.

57 posted on 04/10/2002 8:59:55 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: Shooter 2.5
Just read your 56. We're in the island of non CCW. States like Wisconsin and Minnesota. Can you believe it?

What happens here impacts gunowners everywhere.

58 posted on 04/10/2002 9:07:12 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
You are absolutely correct. We are all in this together. I was on the Freedom Committee when I lived in Oak Park Ill.. I was lucky enough to lose my job after it was all over so I could leave the state. A freedom loving person isn't one if they only want it for themselves.

What some states have done is enact a premption law which states that no municipality can enact any gun law that is more restrictive than the state's. Obviously, Illinois doesn't have one of those.

59 posted on 04/11/2002 7:02:29 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: SJackson
Comments from John Birch, President of Concealed Carry.

http://ericzorn.com/rhubarb/concealedcarry

I have to say Thomas, you are sadly correct that Republicans chose liberal candidates to run in November. I am a Republican Precinct Committeeman and it galls me to admit that you're  right about Republicans in Illinois. They picked machine Republicans (Jim Ryan and Jim Durkin) to run in November and that means they picked RINO'S. (Republicans In Name Only.)

I am distressed that Senator Pat O'Malley did not win the primary, as his victory would have given the voters a real choice. As it is, Blagojevich and Ryan are two sides of the same leftist coin and I don't see myself going door to door getting the vote out for Ryan. As things stand today, Blagojevich is our next governor and gun owners stand ready to be punished. We see the handwriting on the wall. The only question in our minds is "will Blagojevich go too far and push gun owners into 'civil rights' mode to defy his laws?"

While I would like to see a Republican defeat Dick Durbin it's clear Jim Durkin is not the man to do that. Durkin has been my state representative for years and he's a staunch foe of gun rights. A real "Soccer Moms Rule" kind of guy.

The only joy I see in November is that it will be fun to watch Durbin stomp Durkin decidedly on Election Day. The only difference between Durbin and Durkin is the letter "K" and the voters will soon know that. I can't say it makes one whit of difference to me who wins as both have never learned to read…the Second Amendment.

And Thomas, it get better! As a bloc, gun owners are a powerful voting force. But this year we are not a bloc. Some are going "GOP party first" and will hold their collective noses and vote for Ryan. A whole bunch of otherwise "Ryan voters" plan to jump ship and vote for Libertarian Cal Skinner.

Here is the kicker, a rather significant group is voting for Blagojevich both to punish the Republican party and to finally settle the issue of gun rights once and for all in Illinois. Can you spell "Showdown?"

If I were an Illinois politician in this election season I think I would write off the gun- rights voters and concentrate on other issues. Gun owners were routed on March 19th and are no longer players in this election unless some unifying entity emerges.

60 posted on 04/11/2002 10:13:40 PM PDT by Mini-14
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