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MAG: Mailed Anthrax 'More Sophisticated Than Any Form Previously Known'
Newsweek via MSNBC ^ | 4/7/02 | Mark Hosenball, John Barry and Daniel Klaidman

Posted on 04/07/2002 8:49:09 AM PDT by Brian Mosely

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Last fall FBI profilers announced that the person who sent deadly anthrax-laced letters to news organizations and Capitol Hill was probably a grudge-bearing, sociopathic male laboratory nerd with knowledge of the geography of Trenton, N.J. But a new scientific analysis sent to top government officials suggests the anthrax attacker may be a scientific whiz so smart that he succeeded in making a

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TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; News/Current Events
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To: Ranger
"The sites in Florida and NJ where the packages originated are in either heavy muslim populated areas or near known terrorists killed in the 9-11 attack."

YOu missed the most obvious one of them all. Florida and New Jersey have the highest concentration of Cuban immigrants in the Nation. We just threw half a dozen Cuban spies in jail, one of them working in the Pentagon.

Here's something interesting:

Cuba: Our Terrorist Neighbor To The South.****Cuban research has been centered on developing virus strains, which can be inoculated in migratory birds, such as the SV 1417 strain of the West Nile virus, which appeared mysteriously for the first time in the Western Hemisphere in New York, and which more recently has been found in Baltimore, Washington, D.C., Georgia, and northern Florida.

81 posted on 04/07/2002 5:38:58 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: aristeides

PETITION TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES FOR THE CRIMINAL INDICTMENT OF FIDEL CASTRO FOR THE MURDER OF UNARMED AMERICAN CITIZENS.

82 posted on 04/07/2002 5:41:24 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: The Great Satan
See reply 21.
83 posted on 04/07/2002 5:42:49 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: aristeides
"Another Possible, Last-Ditch Way of Treating Anthrax"

"An old and discarded treatment"

"anthrax antitoxin has potential"

"multiple case reports as well as experimental studies have documented some benefit of this approach."

"Nass allows that the side effects could be nasty because the anthrax antitoxin would be crude, but that in a pinch it would be better to endure them than face the possibility of death."

"What we obviously need is a fast-track anthrax antitoxin program to get under way and strong support for researchers hoping to eventually produce an effective and safe antidote to anthrax."

This is an interesting article (thank you for bringing to my attention) about a possible avenue to explore in the search for a cure for anthrax. But that is all that it is. You could write such an article about prospective cures for any number of diseases that have plagued mankind for centuries: cancer, arthritis, heart disease, etc. That doesn't mean that we can cure any one of them.

84 posted on 04/07/2002 5:48:25 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: The Great Satan
The article about the antitoxin may use words that are a bow to political correctness about new research, but it says nothing that indicates the antitoxin treatment is ineffective. The serum-sickness complications are undesirable, but, until something better comes along, they should be considered acceptable. The CDC clearly has this view about the botulism antitoxin.
85 posted on 04/07/2002 5:54:20 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: The Great Satan
If you doubt the effectiveness of the antitoxin, please do read Alibek.
86 posted on 04/07/2002 5:56:23 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Lessismore
So you believe that the US government secretly launched the anthrax attacks which killed five people after 9-11, targeting the hijackers' landlord offices at the Sun tabloid first, to give the impression that the hijackers were involved, and you believe that they are now passing off fabricated medical records to John Hopkins medical school to further implicate the hijackers, who are actually completely innocent in the whole affair. The motive for the murder and the subsequent conspiracy by the US government is to justify overthrowing Saddam Hussein, who is also completely innocent.

Were you on the OJ jury, by any chance?

87 posted on 04/07/2002 5:56:48 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: Brian Mosely
Conclusion: Six months later, we still haven't a clue who or what we're looking for. Just as we haven't a clue about Bin Laden's current whereabouts. When they start doing "psychological profiling" you know they're grasping at straws. Good going, guys.

When people ask me what America needs to do to protect itself, I always say pray fervently to God. The above article is proof that anyone relying on the government or trusting in human means to get us through is sadly deluded.

88 posted on 04/07/2002 6:04:53 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: The Great Satan
No, I wasn't on the OJ jury.

I guess that you haven't been around very long, even though it says you've been a member since 1990! Otherwise you'd remember Mena, Oklahoma City, TWA 800, Commerce Secretary Brown, etc. A change in the titular head of the government doesn't change the nature of the government.

89 posted on 04/07/2002 6:10:01 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: AdamWeisshaupt; The Great Satan; sourcery
Two thoughts:

First, let's say it was sent as a warning because if it were sent for maximum kill count it could have been distributed in many other locations such as malls. Also let's say the planned recipient of the message was the federal government because they were obvious recipients along with some well deserving journalists. Wouldn't it make sense that there would be more to the warning? Don't you get the feeling that there was some other message delivered to the feds through diplomatic channels or other means if it were coming from Iraq? Something like 'there's more where that came from' or 'You kill Saddam, we kill you?" I wonder if the CIA/FBI has more information as to the nature of the message and hence the messenger?

Second, if the mailer was on a suicide mission and planned to hop a plane shortly thereafter using a one way ticket, a lot of the safety precautions needed to stay alive and handle anthrax aren't so important. Last if you were a terrorist well dusted with anthrax, you really wouldn't mind the plane ride so much as it beats an agonizing anthrax death. Just my thoughts.

90 posted on 04/07/2002 6:51:35 PM PDT by Ranger
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To: Ranger
Wouldn't it make sense that there would be more to the warning? Don't you get the feeling that there was some other message delivered to the feds through diplomatic channels or other means if it were coming from Iraq? Something like 'there's more where that came from' or 'You kill Saddam, we kill you?" I wonder if the CIA/FBI has more information as to the nature of the message and hence the messenger?

It's perfectly possible that such messages were delivered. According to the Washington Post, Cheney and his staff were put on a prophylactic course of Cipro on the night of 9-11-2001. So it may be they had word of what was coming. However, I also think it's perfectly possible that the letters we have seen were the whole deal. Something akin to the 9-11 scenario must have been war-gamed a thousand times at the Pentagon. A follow up threat with anthrax was a logical next move to expect from Saddam, inasmuch as anthrax is the only weapon in his arsenal which could level the playing field with the United States. Remember that Bush and Cheney haven't seen this filtered through a lens of official disinformation and distraction, through the chaff of leftist journalistic agendas, or the rose-tinted glasses of the average person who just wants the thing to go away. Their job is to evaluate the threat to the United States and figure out what to do about it. From that clear-eyed perspective, I'll wager the forensic analysis of the anthrax samples and grasp of the wider military-political context of 9-11 are together sufficient to decode the import of those letters.

91 posted on 04/07/2002 7:48:06 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: Mitchell
I agree with your statement: When all is said and done, I think we will find that Bush's "axis of evil" wasn't just a figure of speech; it was based on his knowledge that we are up against an alliance of other countries.
93 posted on 04/07/2002 9:33:42 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Wonder Warthog
Yes!
94 posted on 04/07/2002 9:37:16 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Dialup Llama
Yep!
95 posted on 04/07/2002 9:39:07 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: The Great Satan; keri; Mitchell
Organization, planning and direction
for 9-11
came from somone else.
Someone who isn't suicidal.

That is not clear to me.

It seems you haven’t read Dostoyevsky or Conrad.

I easily can imagine a crazy maniac,
wanting to die in glory,
who enlisted 18 others fools
in his mission
and found powerful sponsors
willing to assist him.

Lunacy and stupidy explain most things,
not logic, planning and common sense.

96 posted on 04/07/2002 9:53:01 PM PDT by Nogbad
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To: Nogbad
I have read plenty of Dostoyevsky, but I don't believe he sheds much light on the strategic doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction, which is what is in play here.
97 posted on 04/07/2002 9:59:09 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: aristeides;Alamo-Girl;The Great Satan;Black Jade;
I think it was the terrorists!

They now know our "response" via the Tom-Toms,Ridge and Thompkins!

They know exactly how we will respond to bio-war!

My pursuit of the Bin Laden cyber-telemedicine-bioweapons-matrix is coming along fine!

98 posted on 04/07/2002 10:00:51 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Betty Jo
If Iraq was behind this, working through the al Queda cells or not, I hope they realize that not only will an anthrax or smallpox attack be minimized but also the retaliation would not be survivable.
99 posted on 04/07/2002 10:07:59 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Unfortunately, there may not be many people in the loop, and they are all likely people we were planning to kill anyway. The problem is, Saddam can only die once. That's what makes the threat of massive retaliation by Saddam's sleepers credible -- that plus his prior history of vengeful, wanton destruction, as evidenced in the fires of Kuwait and the rubble of the WTC. That is why this is effectively a Mutual Assured Destruction situation. There is really nothing very complicated about this, conceptually. If Saddam had nukes on ICBMs that could hit America, we'd be powerless to remove him. Well, THIS ANTHRAX (® Saddam Hussein, 2001) plus "human missiles" of the Mohammed Atta variety amount to the same thing as nuclear-tipped ICBMs, from a strategic standpoint. It's just that people here seem to be a little slow off the mark figuring that out.
100 posted on 04/07/2002 10:19:00 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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