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With a friend like this... America divides to control.
London Observer ^ | Sunday April 7, 2002 | Nick Cohen

Posted on 04/06/2002 8:01:37 PM PST by Jean S

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1 posted on 04/06/2002 8:01:37 PM PST by Jean S
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To: JeanS
Information bump. Jeez why can't America have it all....secure source of oil AND Israel's survival AND steel tariffs AND the rest of the world loving us. (sarcasm).
2 posted on 04/06/2002 8:10:27 PM PST by Ciexyz
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Hey Jean listen Sunday UK Observer are bunch of wimps this same paper that said NOT IN OUR NAME when we first open Camp X-Ray few months back Hey memo to Brits Stop talking like WWF you guys don't cut with ME SHUT UPPPP
3 posted on 04/06/2002 8:11:16 PM PST by SevenofNine
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To: JeanS
a political system which seems to be run by corrupt imbeciles

Excuse me, did a European just call the American political system "corrupt?" What a joke!

4 posted on 04/06/2002 8:14:43 PM PST by xm177e2
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Corrupt? Who, the Europeans?

Aw, geddouddahere!

Be Seeing You,

Chris

5 posted on 04/06/2002 8:17:47 PM PST by section9
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To: Ciexyz
Yea, isn’t it interesting how these eurorats have had us carry their books to school for the last century, and all they can do is whine about how strong it has made us. My advice to them is rent a spine and get over it, we're in our prime and you guys are a bunch of has-been limp wrist.
6 posted on 04/06/2002 8:18:42 PM PST by Islam is a religion of piece
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To: JeanS
The world oil market is fungible. One barrel is just like another barrel of oil. Where it starts and where is goes is more a matter of geography.
7 posted on 04/06/2002 8:20:30 PM PST by Kermit
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To: JeanS
Nick COHEN. Why am I not surprised.
8 posted on 04/06/2002 8:21:44 PM PST by Hildy
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We're controlling if we buy their oil, and we would be more controlling if we didn't buy their oil. They'd better shut up before we change our mind.
9 posted on 04/06/2002 8:22:51 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: JeanS
What a crock...
10 posted on 04/06/2002 8:24:36 PM PST by RJayneJ
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What we resent is the deplorable, but democratic, success of junk culture and junk food, and of a political system which seems to be run by corrupt imbeciles.

What an ass. This "junk food culture" is what fuels the world's technology and underlying economies. Little things called computers, software and the Internet… When it comes to political corruption the Europeans are only out done, maybe, by a few South American and/or African governments.

As for a British person complaining about American food, that is the height of hypocrisy…

British fine food is an oxymoron.

11 posted on 04/06/2002 8:25:21 PM PST by DB
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Cohen: "The greatest worry a friend of America sould have is how its insistence that it can leave no part of the world alone has created anti-Americanism not only in Muslim countries but in regions such as Latin America..."

Yeah -- at America's "insistence" we bailed out the Brits twice in the last century, have financed the world out of financial chaos, and prevented Communism from overrunning Europe and the rest of the world.

Let's put it this way -- the Euros are like a bratty careless teenage kid who begs their parents to drive the family car again, but forgets what happened to the car the two previous times. Note to Cohen: The U.S. will hold on to the keys -- now go to your room before you get spanked.

12 posted on 04/06/2002 8:54:22 PM PST by F16Fighter
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Good analogy. Puts our relationship with the euroweaklings in its proper perspective.
13 posted on 04/06/2002 9:07:58 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: JeanS
Washington wants to 'discourage' the 'advanced industrial nations from challenging our leadership', while maintaining a military dominance capable of 'deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role'.

And who might those nations be? Not the moribund Eurotrash just counting that days till 18 month paid leaves and 6 week vacations.

Like the Roman empire; in 100 years their servants, by breeding like stoats, will outnumber them and destroy them. And they will probably blame the Jews.

14 posted on 04/06/2002 10:00:17 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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Thanks for the heads-up, Jean.

Was it Bush's Inaugural or State-ofThe-Union where he emphasized the need for humility in American foreign relations. Seems as though most Freepers do not ascribe to that notion - "Screw 'em" wins the day here in Freeperland.

15 posted on 04/06/2002 10:05:47 PM PST by Phil V.
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America sustains fundamentalist monarchs because it wants their oil

BS. I have no doubt that were we to instill the same sorts of Public Servant types that run our own nation, they'd be far MORE easy to deal with than thuggish murderers, radicals or fatass royalty.

It's just that there's enough money to be made that it clouds the judgment of many who actually believe this is the case. I fail to see how there's a net gain to this nation's "vital interests" or the "business of the people" by bulldozing our way in to be the Little Red Hen ... only to end up redistributing all but the short end of the loaf.

As a "trickle-down" effect, it's surely no more difficult to yank the chains of the 'merican People at the gas pump as it is for the Fed to alternately delight or frighten the whole damned nation with their arbitrary control of our Interest Points.

The really great thing about having the left bitch and moan about how "it's all about the oil" -- particularly at times like these -- is that the right can turn around and say with all due seriousness: "Indeed it is and when you grow up someday you'll understand how much more vital is oil halfway around the world than that in Alaska or off the shores of California that we've let the environmental lobby or the Most Dramatic Oil Spill of All Time move just out of our reach."

And the really great thing about having the Right so correct (for the most part) about the vital nature of energy is that THEY BELIEVE THEMSELVES -- for all the right reasons -- that it's all about the oil!

Here kitty, kitty ...

16 posted on 04/06/2002 10:20:08 PM PST by Askel5
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How do I put this, I actully agree with most of what he says.The trouble is when we let them act like grown-ups we wind up losing millions of our peoples lives. If we hadn't stepped into the terrorist thing would any of them?

We believe in free people everywhere, which is why we support the English and the Isrealies at such a level. Neither of those countries have our system, but they have the closest around so we support them.

We dominate oil because it is fungible, we believe in domacracy and know that abundant energy helps grow it. We do not stiffle competition, otherwise there would be no Hondas, Toyotas, no NEC, Panasonic, h*ll no Mercedes, BMW either, after all we kicked both Germany and Japan, and could have left them there.

Oh one last thing, this European Court Thing (ICC I think)This is the biggest affront to Sovereignty ever conceived. Let the Euros make a Euro court if they want we have one thank you. If they ever take one of our people into it we might have to send troops to get him out.

17 posted on 04/06/2002 10:20:16 PM PST by TheHound
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To: Phil V.
How much American blood is that humility worth?
18 posted on 04/06/2002 10:24:29 PM PST by DB
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How much American blood is that humility worth?

More properly, the question is, "How much American blood will be spilt as the price for hubris?"

19 posted on 04/06/2002 10:39:55 PM PST by Phil V.
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Apparently you feel that if you appease them they will go away. You don't believe them when they scream they want to kill the Jew, Christian and whoever else isn't Muslim right? You don't think there are wider goals than them simply self rule in their own countries. You think everything that happened to us is a direct result of our actions in our foreign policy in the Middle East correct?

I strongly disagree.

20 posted on 04/06/2002 11:55:50 PM PST by DB
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