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To: Abundy
Why are you a prosecuting attorney?

Every legal argument, every opinion of the evidence, every take you've expressed and even your questioning of whether this is murder has been exclusively from the viewpoint of a defense lawyer. You haven't commented at all about the prosecution's case ... and you're allegedly a prosecutor. It's a murder case, because it has been already charged that way, ok? There's nothing in your posts that highlights evidence or law that bolsters the prosecution case. That's what you are supposed to be trained to do. It's absent. That's a red flag pal.

If I were a Maryland resident, I'd question your resolve to aggressively prosecute the State's interests. You'd be sitting around thinking of all the ways you couldn't win. Why are you doing that job, your heart and soul is in defense? That's righteous, you'd be happier. You can walk up and bully the prosecution witnesses if things get hairy ... tell them to go back to DU, that'll unravel the star witness.

You don't conduct yourself as a professional attorney. "Brownshirt" "Adolf" You use words recklessly, and good lawyers don't do that. My support of two policemen's rights - I don't give a shit about the legal falderol - is about their rights as human beings with families who should not be murdered as young men. How about the moral right of a LEO to not get ambushed with a shotgun blast as they enter a key-opened front door after full ID and in service of resolving a citizen complaint? They were doing their duty. You say it could have been prevented. Your solution ... the cops wouldn't enter the house even with permission of the owner, they may have just went away, maybe loitered outside for three or four hours, or possibly obtained a search warrant whereupon Zito could have shot them coming through the door with a piece of paper in their hands. How do I think this could have prevented? Here's a simple preventative strategy, how about if that Zito animal hadn't grabbed a shotgun, lined up his aim and then ambushed and killed two Law Enforcement Officers as they unlocked and entered through the front door? That would have prevented the butchery too.

The people of Maryland should sleep secure with you watching their interests.

71 posted on 04/06/2002 3:09:10 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
you are a JBT wannabe.

The cops had no legal authority to enter the dwelling, plain and simple.

there is still a thing called the Constitution, although between you JBTs and liberals, it has been wrecked pretty well.

the cops right to life ended the moment they violated the Constitution and entered the dwelling illegally, at that point they were the same class as a thief looking to steal.

if they had followed the law, then they would still be alive.

on to the next point, do you know what the prosecutors job is? or have you just been watching law and order?

74 posted on 04/06/2002 4:35:05 AM PST by dreadme
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To: ArneFufkin; cap'n crunch
I don't give a shit about the legal falderol

Obviously, which is 99% of your problem; however I'm obligated to "give a shit about the legal falderol." That is also why I label you a Nazi and realize that if you were running the show we'd have a modern-day SS. Thank you, no, I like our Bill of Rights.

I'm a prosecutor because I couldn't defend 99% of the people arrested, because 99% of them are guilty and 99% of the cops act appropriately when the arrest them.

The defense bar can't stand me, because I am aggressive and get convictions - because I know the law - I lived it for over seven years.

I also have an ethical obligation to look at both sides of the coin, and not to prosecute without probable cause. I also know that to be an effective prosecutor I need to look for the holes in my own case.

On this thread I'm looking at the problems with this case, based on the information given. If you can't handle that, you need to move to a country where you will be more comfortable: say Nigeria or Zimbabwe...they don't care about "legal falderol" either; but I do.

These cops should have too - they'd both still be alive. I'm sorry for this tragedy, but the day we cannot honestly evaluate an incident like this is the day we all lose our freedoms. Police procedures are in place to preserve and protect not only the police officers and the public they come in contact with, but the Rights of us all. Had these officers backed off and set up a perimeter, they would still be alive to testify as to what occurred.

If it comes out that an exigency existed for them to enter, that changes the equation, but on the facts presented - a loud noise complaint - there's just no excuse for entering that trailer.

78 posted on 04/06/2002 5:09:22 AM PST by Abundy
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To: ArneFufkin
Your solution ... the cops wouldn't enter the house even with permission of the owner

They didn't have permission from the person that counts, the tennant,

they may have just went away, maybe loitered outside for three or four hours, or possibly obtained a search warrant

BTW - That ain't my solution, that's Tom Jefferson's and Jimmy Madison's solution...or haven't you read Amendment IV to the United States Constitution?

79 posted on 04/06/2002 5:16:02 AM PST by Abundy
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To: ArneFufkin
BTW - if it turns out that an exigency did exist to enter, and Zito knew they were officers, I'll be volunteering to pull the switch once he is convicted.

Your problem, Adolf, is you can't admit when you are wrong.

80 posted on 04/06/2002 5:18:44 AM PST by Abundy
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To: ArneFufkin
I don't give a shit about the legal falderol

Son, you just took my breath away. Do you vote, or just serve on lynch mobs?

83 posted on 04/06/2002 5:54:30 AM PST by William Terrell
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