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To: Joe Hadenuf
Please, don't give me the police are spread to thin argument. You even said yourself, that San Antonio PD is becoming more militarized!!!

I never said anything about the San Antonio PD, I have no idea where you got that from. I was talking about Austin, and that the PD claims they need a few hundred more cops.

Anyways, like I said, how can you go after all illegal immigrants without turning this nation into a police state, without having the cops turn into the INS, without having them setup roadblocks everywhere. We are well on our way to a police state, and Bush and Co. have given the liberals enough tools to really put us on down the road to a police state. Another liberal administration or two, and sites like FR will not be allowed to exist, for preaching against government control and talking about things like the Constitution.

You can blast me all you want, but I have presented very very valid points about why we can't turn our local PDs into extensions of federal law enforcement agencies. It's called the Constitution, and that document, the heart of this nation, means a lot to me. I want to see illegal immigrants gone, but it's the price we pay for a free and open nation. I will gladly tolerate their presence, as I have done for almost forty years, as the price for being able to go anywhere I want, without being questioned about where I'm going, whom I'm meeting, what I'm carrying, and justifying my actions to some government clerk.

Until you can present a serious argument about how to get rid of illegal aliens without taking away our freedoms and privacy and turning us into a police state, your arguments will fall on deaf ears. You will not find an audience on FR for your views if you want to turn us into a police state and have the cops stop everybody everyday, asking for their papers. Well, a year ago you wouldn't. You might now.

155 posted on 04/07/2002 9:15:36 PM PDT by texlok
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To: texlok
"Until you can present a serious argument about how to get rid of illegal aliens without taking away our freedoms and privacy and turning us into a police state, your arguments will fall on deaf ears."

It is very easy to get rid of them using no new laws and being no more intrusive than the government is now. Citizens have to present a birth certificate and proof of residency to put their kids in government schools. Criminal aliens don't. Enforce the law and when a criminal alien brings his kid for the "free" education arrest them both and deport them.

When they catch an employer working criminal aliens use the RICO laws to confiscate the business and anything the owner bought with his illegal profits. If it is a homeowner employing a criminal alien to do yard work or house work, take their house under RICO.

They should start the program by confiscating Tyson Foods. Under RICO they don't have to prove anything the company has to prove they are not guilty. Take down Tyson Foods and maybe confiscate a few homes and nobody would be willing to hire the criminals.

Demand proof of citizenship for any welfare or taxpayer funded service and that will get the rest.

No new laws no stopping people to check their papers. Just verification of employment records and positive ID for welfare and the problem is solved. It wouldn't even take an act of Congress. The laws are already on the books.

158 posted on 04/09/2002 1:59:26 PM PDT by SUSSA
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