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To: traditionalist;muawiyah;MissAmericanPie
Palestine, like Syria, Iraq, and Jordan are artificial contstructs carved out of the Ottoman Empire by England and France for their own purposes. If you think that it was recognize inherent national populations, then why was Kurdistan ignored? Access to oil has always been the answer to any "why" for actions of western powers with respect to the middle east.

Facts to deal with:
1. Isreal has been, and will always be.
2. "Occupied lands" is an invention of the Arabs. Reconquered is the accurate adjective.
3. "Peace" will be a chimera as long as "Palestine" is not so considered.

22 posted on 04/05/2002 5:27:58 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: rightofrush
1. Isreal has been, and will always be.

Israel only existed as an independent state for a few hundred years during the era of the kings, and then for a very brief time before the Roman conquest. Arabs have been living in Palestine since the 7th century.

Also, the land upon which the ancient state of Israel established itself took it from the Caananites, whom the Bible said the Israelites mercilessly slaughted.

2. "Occupied lands" is an invention of the Arabs. Reconquered is the accurate adjective.

Israel did not annex the occupied territories. Even the Israeli government does not consider them to be part of Israel.

3. "Peace" will be a chimera as long as "Palestine" is not so considered.

So what are you proposing to do with the people who beleive themselves to be the nation of Palestine? Perhaps the same fate as the Caananites?

26 posted on 04/05/2002 6:19:59 PM PST by traditionalist
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To: rightofrush

God’s promises are not changing as man’s are. No one cared from 70AD to 1948AD that the Jewish people had no homeland. The world did not cry out for them and offer them concessions. No, they threw them out of European countries, kept them in ghettos, and eventually put them in ovens. Now they are home, and the world says they do not belong there. For centuries they have been the refugees...and the world cared little for their plight. SHAME on those who come against Israel. As for a ‘new covenant’ be careful, you think you serve the LORD in this covenant? HE does not know you if you curse Israel. I am not speaking to those here who support Israel. New to this forum and am shaking with anger at the stuupidity of those who choose to remain ignorant of history...and then bring in the new covenant as if they are so blessed to be God’s favorite child. A proud heart such as that will not see God.


92 posted on 03/27/2011 9:00:00 PM PDT by debrakcarey
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