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International Criminal Court Coming Into Being(And Ron Paul's Response)
usasurvival.org ^ | 4/2/02 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 04/04/2002 10:44:59 PM PST by BigWest

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Is Ron Paul the only one with guts enough to stand up to "hot coffee" Annan and the rest of the anti-American crew at the UN?
1 posted on 04/04/2002 10:44:59 PM PST by BigWest
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If the U.S. resists the International Criminal Court having jurisdiction over individuals, it should resist any such court having same -- including the one that's trying Milosevic. Otherwise, we're flaming hypocrites.
2 posted on 04/05/2002 12:38:24 AM PST by Greybird
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To: *Ron Paul list;*"NWO";ratcat;Black Jade;madfly
Check the Bump List folders for articles related to and descriptions of the above topic(s) or for other topics of interest.
3 posted on 04/05/2002 7:59:18 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: BigWest
So Milosevic is really on trial for fighting terrorism? YES!!!!

Ron Paul is RIGHT ON for opposing the ICC in toto, not going along with it or merely trying to "protect US servicemen". The ICC--as well as the ICTY--negates our 1,000-year-old system of jurisprudence, with its safeguards of the rights of the accused. America needs to stand FIRM for fair, civilized, and democratic standards of jurisprudence throughout the world.

As the ICC nears implementation, the traitor chorus of "human rightsers" and world "federalists" are coming out of the woodwork, claiming "victory for humanity". However, the ICC's implementation would mean JUST THE OPPOSITE !!!!

The evil "genius" behind the ICC (and the ICTY), M. Cherif Bassiouni--is after victory for something else--making islamic sharia law equal to the American system of jurisprudence, and putting muslim "judges" on the international bench, to rule on cases involving "infidels" and "disbelievers" as defendants, where they are considered guilty even beofre the "trial" begins. This is already happening in the ICTY!!!

4 posted on 04/05/2002 8:28:07 AM PST by Honorary Serb
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To: backhoe;Sabertooth...
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5 posted on 04/05/2002 11:13:31 AM PST by madfly
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To: *UN_list
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6 posted on 04/05/2002 11:16:52 AM PST by madfly
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To: BigWest
"Senator Daniel Inouye Kills Anti-ICC Legislation "

Someone who gives a damn about our troops and America should kill Senator Daniel Inouye! These Goddamn Communists think that Freedom is free, well ask the men and women who died fighting for America's freedom what the price was for them. The ultimate....DEATH. THAT'S WHAT THEY PAID FOR US TO BE FREE!

7 posted on 04/05/2002 11:20:10 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: madfly
Hmmm... So let's see... Young Americans can now join our armed forces wanting to "serve their country" (as I did), be used as cannon-fodder in some unconstitutional "police action" that we shouldn't even be involved in, and then end up in some foreign prison (or worse) because they broke some regulation or "international law" that they in all likelyhood weren't even advised on (such as shooting back when coming under fire).

Boy, that's going to inspire a lot of volunteers.


8 posted on 04/05/2002 11:31:10 AM PST by Joe Brower
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To: madfly
bttt
9 posted on 04/05/2002 12:58:30 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: madfly; BigWest
...signatures from 60 nations will suffice to authorize creation of the international court...

Charter of the United Nations
CHAPTER XVIII
AMENDMENTS

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Article 108

Amendments to the present Charter shall come into force for all Members of the United Nations when they have been adopted by a vote of two thirds of the members of the General Assembly and ratified in accordance with their respective constitutional processes by two thirds of the Members of the United Nations, including all the permanent members of the Security Council.

click here for UN charter link

Clinton, by signing the UN treaty, allowed the UN Court to be born, according to the UN charter. Permanent member of the UN Security Council have veto powers and can stop any amendment. The Court was not inevitable until Clinton signed the treaty.

As long as we are in the UN, this part of the Constitution:
He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur

is superceded by this part:
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

Constitution link

The balance created by our founding fathers is negated. The president has power to create any law he wishes through the UN regardless of the Senate's wishes.

Get the US out of the UN.

10 posted on 04/05/2002 5:45:55 PM PST by jadimov
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To: madfly
"UN bureaucrats don't care whether our Senate ratifies the ICC treaty or not," Paul stated. "The Clinton administration signed the treaty, and the UN views the signature as final. It arrogantly announced that signatures from 60 nations will suffice to authorize creation of the international court. Paul's resolution calls for President Bush to declare that the U.S. does not intend to ratify or assent to the ICC treaty.

Bump.

11 posted on 04/05/2002 6:44:23 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: ratcat
Senator Jackass from Hawaii is a proponent of "ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT"! He thinks it's inevitable. How can such traitorous dupes be put into positions of power ? Kinda makes ya' wonder ? Ron Paul usually "gets it" but he is literally an "army of one".

May God save the Republic!

15 posted on 04/05/2002 7:45:36 PM PST by lawdog
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To: lawdog
I think that you can kind of get the gist from the article that GW is quite coperative in these international matters. We sure know that he loves China. He will probably go along with this too in the end. Bring on the NWO.
17 posted on 04/05/2002 8:03:41 PM PST by Revel
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To: ratcat; Joe Brower
Thanks for the "dung" ping ratcat. I lately wonder who on earth is living in our country? Is every legislator a traitorous moron? It seems that our "popular" culture has taken on a life of its own - media & college students were the first to be sucked in, but it has invaded the church, the schools, and even our own "representatives" have started to believe the lies they once hid from public view. Thanks heaven fo the FR - sometimes the only voice of common sense and reason there is in my day. As FReeper Joe Brower stated: it's going to inspire a lot of volunteers NOT!
18 posted on 04/05/2002 8:07:29 PM PST by Libertina
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To: ratcat
Thanks for the ping.

Government is not the solution to our problem,
Government is the problem.

-Ronald Reagan

19 posted on 04/05/2002 9:34:30 PM PST by hammerdown
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To: Libertina
Haven't you noticed all the intelligentsia having orgasms talking about "the new American Empire" ! How far we have drifted from our Constitutional foundation. No good will come of it- none!
20 posted on 04/05/2002 9:38:57 PM PST by lawdog
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