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To: mrustow
What you say is true....however there are non evangelical hard right Christians like myself (and many Southerners like me I know) who simply support Israel because it is at least for us an easy case of right over wrong....regardless of Biblical or providential perspectives. I also have personal ties to Jews in Israel which makes my opinion entirely subjective.

I doubt our support for Israel will sway liberal American Jews much in any event. Their dislike for us is entrenched and they mostly seem like Pali sympathizers anyhow....not just them but take a look at the waffling Labor party in Israel...hell they are as bad as Powell. America supports Israel not because of some loony ZOG conspiracy but because we are still mostly a Christian nation....just my opinion. We have much more in common religiously and culturally and politically with the Israelis than the barbarian despots surrounding her.

Novak is Lebanese Maronite I think....he's letting his ethno-centricity get the best of him....he should go ask his Phalange brethren how they feel about the Palis...LOL.

103 posted on 04/04/2002 9:28:33 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
What you say is true....however there are non evangelical hard right Christians like myself (and many Southerners like me I know) who simply support Israel because it is at least for us an easy case of right over wrong....regardless of Biblical or providential perspectives.

No argument here -- but that's a case-by-case thing. But the remarkable thing for me, is that as a group, Evangelicals have been such steadfast supporters. Or maybe it's just that all the Evangelicals I know, are that way.

I doubt our support for Israel will sway liberal American Jews much in any event. Their dislike for us is entrenched and they mostly seem like Pali sympathizers anyhow....not just them but take a look at the waffling Labor party in Israel...hell they are as bad as Powell.

When you say of liberal American Jews, "Their dislike for us," does "us" refer to "non-evangelical hardright Christians"? If so, you are right. But then, they are hostile to religious Jews and religious Christians. But not to Moslems. They are intimidated and fascinated by them -- the way they are by blacks.

In any event, based on my experience and what I have read from the likes of the Times' Tom Friedman, I suspect that there is a split among socialist Jews in America. Some will have been partially shocked back to their senses. Others will support the Arabs more than ever. I say this, because ten years ago, a certain socialist Jewish anti-Semite told me of being consoled by a friend on the street. The friend had read my letter to the editor, dripping in sarcasm, following the acquittal, by a racist jury, of Lemrick Nelson Jr. for the murder of rabbinical student, Yankel Rosenbaum, during the 1991 Crown Heights pogrom. I claimed to have "solved" Rosenbaum's murder, saying he had stuck the knife in himself, and Nelson had merely been trying to save him. The friend saw the anti-Semite on the street, and hugged her, to console her for the letter. The anti-Semite was my sister.

America supports Israel not because of some loony ZOG conspiracy but because we are still mostly a Christian nation....just my opinion. We have much more in common religiously and culturally and politically with the Israelis than the barbarian despots surrounding her.

Europe is composed of allegedly Christian nations, but they are all ready to screw the Jews yet again. While Christianity may be a factor, it has to be a uniquely American brand of Christianity.

Novak is Lebanese Maronite I think....he's letting his ethno-centricity get the best of him....he should go ask his Phalange brethren how they feel about the Palis...LOL.

Thanks for the info. BTW, what does "ZOG" mean? "Zionist something"?

117 posted on 04/04/2002 9:54:48 PM PST by mrustow
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