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To: xzins; harpseal
They will not fire on their fathers and brothers and uncles and cousins. Instead, they will join them. And then the army of the enemy will be the army of the freedom fighters. The tanks and the planes and the missiles will turn to target the oppressor, not the oppressed.

I would suggest that the powers-that-be are well aware of that.

One response would be to cultivate a self-contained segment of the population. This segment would be carefully indoctrinated to feel a sense of entitlement and grievance against the productive middle class (which is the group that needs to be kept in line). The members of this segment would be comfortable with armed violence, have few of their relatives being members of the productive middle class, and would feel that their continued comfort and prosperity was dependent on the powers-that-be being kept in power, and the productive middle-class being kept in line

In the early days of his presidency, there was a gang summit attended by 186 street-gang leaders from across the US. Clinton addressed the summit over closed circuit TV, with the text of his speech not being made public. This always bothered me to a degree...

62 posted on 04/05/2002 7:08:30 AM PST by SauronOfMordor
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To: SauronOfMordor
I am familiar with the gang summit you mentioned I also note that the Clinton administration tried to let the PRC supply fully automatic weapons to street gangs. At present we do not know just how well armed many such gangs are. Nor do we have an understanding of what level of discipline there is in keeping arms cached for some later use. The one big disadvantage many of these street gangs face is many if not most of their members lack adequate practice time to become good marksmen but Soviet doctrine always relied on massed firepower to achieve its ends. Yes, they employed sharshooter snipers but marksmanship was never a broadly taught discipline in that nation's armed forces.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

63 posted on 04/05/2002 7:23:13 AM PST by harpseal
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To: SauronOfMordor
Another reference about my point is a report by the Chicago Crime Commission. A couple of relevant quotes:
The [Chicago] street gangs are a mobilized army, in the tens of thousands. They represent a cross-section of society. They are Hispanic, African-American, Asian, and white. All they lack at the present time is the political backing and degrees of sophistication of the Mafia "dons" of yesteryear. In time, though, that is likely to occur if we are apathetic. We are already witnessing the early stages of the "empowerment" of the street gangs through organizations like 21st Century VOTE, a self-styled "political action committee" that we see as being little more than a "Trojan Horse" to further the aims of imprisoned gang leaders.

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Nationwide, the F.B.I. estimates that there are 400,000 gang members in the U.S. active in 700 cities.


66 posted on 04/05/2002 7:44:10 AM PST by SauronOfMordor
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