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To: PatrickHenry
The affair she had was with her friend, not her husbands; and it was done with her husband's consent.

The problem is that sex outside of marriage, even when both spouses are aware and accepting of "open" relationships, is that it contradicts gore3000's personal sense of "morality" as defined by his religion. He can't comprehend that some people might not consider extramarital affairs that occur with the consent and understanding of both spouses and the additional partner where no one is physically or emotionally harmed and no agreements are violated isn't a "big deal". As such, since Ayn Rand's views on right and wrong don't match gore3000's -- even though his morality is derived from his religious beliefs and she did not share his religions beliefs -- she's a perfect example of "immorality"
589 posted on 04/06/2002 2:12:18 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
As such, since Ayn Rand's views on right and wrong don't match gore3000's -- even though his morality is derived from his religious beliefs and she did not share his religions beliefs -- she's a perfect example of "immorality"

You think you are making a devastating point, but you are not. First as to the promiscuity:
Thus she engineered the marriage between Nathaniel and Barbara Branden, even though (according to Barbara, in The Passion of Ayn Rand) they weren't all that attracted to each other -- their unease was "irrational" to Rand. Then she decided that she and Nathaniel should have some sort of "rational" love affair, like characters in her novels. That Nathaniel was not comfortable with that, especially since they were both already married, does not seem to have mattered. When he finally refused to continue their relationship, Rand furiously expelled him from her "movement" and then scuttled the "movement" itself.

Add to the above:
In another incident, related by the columnist Samuel Francis, when Rand learned that the economist Murray Rothbard's wife, Joey, was a devout Christian, she all but ordered that if Joey did not see the light and become an atheist in six months, Rothbard, who was an agnostic, must divorce her. Rothbard never had any intention of doing anything of the sort, and this estranged him from Rand, who found such "irrational" behavior intolerable.

Add the two incidents above together and you can see she was an extremely selfish, extremely disturbed person who thought of others as their personal playthings rather than as individuals. This of course is reflected in her overall philosophy.

I asked Patrick this question, and he did not care to answer it, I now ask it of you and anyone else here: what is moral about her philosophy of selfishness?

681 posted on 04/07/2002 9:09:00 AM PDT by gore3000
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