And I didn't say that either. Atheism doesn't have to lead to immorality. An atheist is simply someone who does not believe in any deities and that allone says nothing about him being a moral or immoral person (unless you consider a lack of belief in a god or especially your god to be immoral).
Sure, a belief in a god can prevent people to kill each other as well as it can lead some to fly planes into buildings depending on what is believed that such a deity wants.
It's similar to being told that you are roasted alive if you push a certain button. Even if that isn't the case it prevents you from actually pushing that button if you believe what you're being told. But why should someone tell you that? Well maybe because that person thinks (or knows) you're not capable of understanding what really happens if you push that button. So as long as you don't push that button it doesn't really matter why you refrain from doing it.
And I did not say that either! (seems there is a lot of that on this discussion).
Sure, a belief in a god can prevent people to kill each other as well as it can lead some to fly planes into buildings depending on what is believed that such a deity wants.
I don't really want to hear about what muslims do, as far as I am concerned it has no relation with the religion I speak of, Christianity. Islam is a religion started by a rapist and mass murderer. As far as I am concerned he was no more of a prophet of God than Darwin or Clinton.
An atheist is simply someone who does not believe in any deities and that allone says nothing about him being a moral or immoral person (unless you consider a lack of belief in a god or especially your god to be immoral).
It is not that simple. First of all an atheist is someone who has no religious restraints upon his actions. He can kill, lie and steal without fear of anything except getting caught. A Christian is restrained by his belief in the Ten Commandments and the absolute knowledge that such actions are evil. An atheist has loosened his restraints with both religion and society (since the societies I speak of are overwhelmingly religious) so an atheist has set himself apart from the two main sources of objective morality - society and religion. Therefore, whatever morality he decides to abide by is purely personal, and being purely personal, it does not exercise any restraints upon him. In addition one must wonder the reason why some reject religion. My suspicion is that their own evil deeds turns them to atheism (but of course such a thing can never be proven, but it seems pretty logical to me). I do not think that too many turn to atheism because of some deep philosophical or scientific reasoning. I think they just want to be bad. So, yes, I think for all the above reasons, atheism does lead to immorality.