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Posted on 04/04/2002 10:05:32 AM PST by Heartlander
Quite a leap.
Energy exists.
But, if the total in the universe is zero . . .
It can't be created according to the First Law.
Hello?
You want to tell me that nobody is trying to find out why without evoking the C word?
Actually, I think I've seen physicist explain conservation laws as being the result of symmetry relationships. That's not the same as being able to recapitulate what he said. But why the First Law exists is a different subject from claiming that the great minds of physics are trying to beat the First Law. The little minds of charlatanry are trying to do that.
RA...I find is amazing too. Glad you liked the site.
781 posted on 4/7/02 11:45 AM Hawaii-Aleutian by RadioAstronomer
my rebuttal...
I actually meant Amazing---bizarre...
True science, in the hands of honest and... true scientists---supports the assumption that God exists and is the Intelligence, the Master Planner, the Designer responsible for all creation and for life.
A friend of mine---his son---my "nephew" wanted to be, when he was a teenager, a heavy metal rock star...
and after I explained to him this was only entertainment and he would have to have a real life---career---livelihood...
he eventually gave up smoking crack(evolution) and joined the real working world...
even after he got out of shotgun wedding(was not his kid)...
and a one date failure for a teenage escort service.
Wish I could do the same for you!
Weren't Washington and Jefferson, among other Founders, Deists?
LOL, there's never been a hoax by creationists, no siree, not ever!
The Emmy Noether Page, a more detailed treatment.
From the same site, Noether's Theorem:
For every continuous symmetry of the laws of physics, there must exist a conservation law.For every conservation law, there must exist a continuous symmetry.
Yes, it's certainly strange; but it's not all that convoluted. And it most definitely is true -- I'm referring to my account in post 779. You thought it had been dropped? You really thought that? Then why, in post 745, did you say:
My very first and only Freepmail betrayal was by you and ever since I've been the "bad guy". For a while I had decided it was simple ineptness.And why now, in post 783, do you refer to my account of the incident and say:
A very strange and convoluted story. Also not true.And why, in posts 803 and 804, so you continue your campaign by saying:
Plain old tinfoil. "the management"Do you really imagine that it's dropped when you have publicly declared that I betrayed you, when we both know that I did no such thing? And do you really imagine that it's dropped when you have publicly declared that my account of the events isn't true? Do you really think it ends there? On that note? It doesn't. If you knew me, you would understand that it can never end like that.
I have copies of the 2nd pulled thread, the whole thing, the thread in which the abuse button was pushed. I have copies of the freepmails. I haven't betrayed your freepmail confidences (because there were none) and I haven't lied about any of this. I have the files. I'm not bluffing. If you have any accurate memory of the events, you know this. If you don't, you shouldn't be making statements you can't back up. It very well may be that your recollection of events is hazy. Mine is not, because I have a record to which I can go to see the facts. I can back up everything I've said. Now ... I'm trying to be a gentleman about this. There is no need to continue this exchange. I would truly like it to end. Therefore, at this point, and in the light of what I have just said, let it drop.
You know, I've come to the conclusion that Creationism should be studied in school - as a case study in dishonest rhetoric.
We've accumulated a pile of evidence that the earth is about 4.5 billion and the universe is maybe 15 billion years old. The adjustments to these numbers continue but the adjustments get smaller and smaller, converging on presumably true values.
Really? When? By whom? In what manner? What replaced it?
Anyway, if the genetic material from which mammary glands originally developed (mutated, whatever) is present in the "tree", wherever that may be, I suppose the potential exists for such material to be expressed again, although in a different species. I just don't know. Well, yes, there's the platypus, isn't there. I suppose, if the platypus isn't a separate creation of the lord, then it's a separate expression of the same mutated genetic stuff that resulted in mammals
Hi No-kin. Did you forget what you wrote. This is a reminder. Remember also these little tid-bits are not in isolation.
Whoa man, I expect the strawberries and ball bearings references to your posts now. Geometric logic!!
Creationism, not evolution, is taught in the madrassas. All (true) Muslims are creationists, but not all creationists are Muslim.
It makes me wonder sometimes. I *did* once credit one of the Drug Warriors with passing the Turing Test.
There really is this religious horror going on behind all the "scientific skepticism" of evolution. It's why I still wonder in case after case, "How much does that guy really admit to himself?"
Yeah, it is fascinating (and a bit scary). Trying to get g3k to admit the facts of natural history, with or without evolutionary explanation, is like trying to get a D*m*cr*t to admit that [g3k's namesake] tried to steal the election.
I too wonder how much the little voice of conscience nags g3k (and the other C's who aren't flat-out delusional); I'd think trying to live with such contradictions would drive them crazy.
I once posted that sometimes these threads make me feel like Oliver Sacks.
Your delusions amuse me, but shall I start addressing you as "jennyp?" She's admitted being you.
Did you forget what you wrote. This is a reminder. Remember also these little tid-bits are not in isolation.
The excerpt of No-Kin's floundering shows me nothing except that he's got rather shaky legs as an E, to the extent he can remember he's trying to be one. What does it prove, with or without isolation?
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