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To: TheBattman
I take it you have never been involved in an accident where someone hit you while running a red light (or you hit them because they ran a red light).

Wrong guess. I got hit in such a situation a few years ago. That's irrelevant to the issue I raised, which was that such cameras are an invasion of privacy and are being used to generate revenue, not increase safety.

I wonder if your view would change if you were injured by someone running a red light?

It hasn't. I wasn't seriously injured, but my view wouldn't change anyway.

And.... The definition of a "speed trap" is a sudden change of legal speed without adequate notice, which enforced without exception.

That's your definition. My definition of a "speed trap" is a speed limit that is set artificially lower than road conditions and traffic levels would justify in order to increase revenue, whether or not notification has been provided.

If the speed limit is prominently posted, there is no excuse for exceeding the speed limit - lead foot, or your opinion that the speed limit is obsurd (I also feel that way - and I pay for it if I am caught breaking the law) do not make it a "speed trap".

So you're saying that you never exceed the speed limit. How about we put a governor on your car to prevent your car from ever going over 65 mph, just to make sure?

Here's another idea: Let's put a sensor in everyone's car that will report their speed to police at all times, so if they're speeding we can catch them.

Not only that, let's tap everyone's phone line and e-mail to make sure they aren't breaking the law. After all, laws are clearly posted and everyone should know what they are, so the law-abiding have nothing to fear, only the criminals will get caught.

12 posted on 04/04/2002 7:55:05 AM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: Numbers Guy
I live in a suburban community where running red lights is popular sport. Pedestrians are getting hit and cars legitimately entering intersections are getting rammed. This is symptomatic of the decline in civility and community in American society. This is a stupid issue to involve in a right v. left context. This is a civilization v. the jungle issue. Red-light cameras may not be a perfect solution, but then neither are airport security searches nor Mexican border stops.
15 posted on 04/04/2002 8:03:53 AM PST by catch
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