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To: cogitator
The funny thing about the Climatic Research Unit's Global Tempreture trend is you only get warming if you believe the data from: 1) over the Indian Ocean and Southeast Asia 2) West Africa 3) Central Brazil 4) Polynesia 5) Pacific Ocean west of Mexico and 6) Northeastern Siberia. In other words a bunch of poorly controlled stations (and areas that will benefit from any global warming treaty). The data from North America, Western Europe, and Australia agree with the satellite data which shows no real warming trend over the last 30 years.

In summary, good data = no warming, suspect data = significant warming. The 'experts' are 100% sure there has been significant warming. And the 'experts' lie.

107 posted on 04/04/2002 12:12:06 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
"Some" of the experts lie.

Many analyze and report valid, accurate, correct results.

The news media prints and exploits ONLY those "eco-extremist experts" who DO lie.

And the thousands of "ecologists" who blatantly exaggerate these lies.

108 posted on 04/04/2002 2:16:22 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE
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To: Always Right
The funny thing about the Climatic Research Unit's Global Tempreture trend is you only get warming if you believe the data from: 1) over the Indian Ocean and Southeast Asia 2) West Africa 3) Central Brazil 4) Polynesia 5) Pacific Ocean west of Mexico and 6) Northeastern Siberia. In other words a bunch of poorly controlled stations (and areas that will benefit from any global warming treaty). The data from North America, Western Europe, and Australia agree with the satellite data which shows no real warming trend over the last 30 years.

I think you forgot about the borehole data, which is global.

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Twentieth century 'warmest in 500 years'

Studies of temperature records preserved deep in underground rocks show that the Earth has been gradually warming over at least the last 500 years.

And the studies, by scientists in the US and Canada, show that the trend accelerated markedly during the 20th Century, which was the warmest of the past five centuries.

Since 1500, the Earth's temperature has increased by about one degree Celsius, with half of that increase occurring in the last century.

Trend picks up

Almost 80% of the net temperature increase observed occurred in the 19th and 20th centuries.

In the Northern Hemisphere, the five-century change has been 1.1 degrees, with 0.6 recorded since 1900.

The studies, reported in the science journal Nature, are based on analysis of borehole temperatures from 616 sites on every continent except Antarctica.

The scientists lowered sensitive thermometers into holes drilled down from ground level to discover how surface temperature altered in the past. A typical borehole was measured at 10-metre depth intervals down to as far as 600 m.

Records preserved

The technique is possible because of heat conduction, which means that temperature changes at the surface generate "signals" that penetrate subterranean rocks.

The signals from short-term daily or seasonal variations penetrate only a few metres and are rapidly lost. But changes over centuries are preserved in deeper rock, although the signals travel very slowly, penetrating only about 500 metres in 1,000 years.

One of the team, Professor Henry Pollack of the University of Michigan, said: "The upper 500 metres is an archive. Like any historical archive, there are of course missing pages, and the ink has run in a few places.

"But in principle, if you drilled a borehole anywhere on a continent, you could observe a temperature profile and be able to reconstruct what had happened at that location."

The team's work involved calculating averages from all the boreholes investigated, and built on a previous analysis of borehole temperature data from 358 sites. "What we show that is somewhat different is that the total temperature change over the past five centuries has been greater than some of the other methods are showing."

In an accompanying article in Nature, Jonathan Overpeck, of the University of Arizona, Tucson, says the team's results reinforce the forecast for this century: continued warming ahead.

"But they also provide unsettling indications that human alteration of the climate system over the past century will make the reliable prediction of climate change an even tougher business than expected. "Their analysis is the latest of several to indicate that late 20th Century warming is without precedent in the past 400 to 1,000 years.

"We do not know of any combination of natural mechanisms that can explain this phenomenon. So we are left with the likelihood that human-induced global warming is under way."

And he adds a warning. "The results show yet again that the 20th Century record of climate variability is too short and cloaked with human-induced influences to provide a clear indication of natural climate variability.

"Earlier studies may have underestimated the full amplitude of natural decade-to century-scale climate variability."

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In my experience, global warming skeptics that cite the uncertainties in the surface station data usually get somewhat tongue-tied when they read about the borehole data, which fully supports the observed trends.

122 posted on 04/04/2002 7:50:07 AM PST by cogitator
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