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To: Basil Duke
The American Jewish population to a large extent (at least that 80 percent that robotically punched the "Gore" hole in '00) strikes me as demographic that exists in a sort of fantasy world. Theirs must be a world wherein stark, brutal experience (i.e. the Nazis' ovens that incinerated so many European Jews)is immaterial to the present gun "control" debate here in the States.

Well, you're right, but it's even worse than you think.

I read a letter to the editor in the Jew York Times (don't bother asking for an apology, I'm Jewish) a while back from a "holocaust survivor" Mr. Goldberg, who said he was appalled that America wouldn't confiscate all the privately owned guns, because the Nazis had used guns to arrest him and his family. At first, his attitude appeared so ludicrous on the face of it that I thought his letter must be a hoax.

But the more I thought about it, the more I realized that that is *exactly* how stupid most of my fellow Jews are. They can't even see the abstract issue - they think that somehow if they can just make all the guns go away, there can't be any "pogroms" conducted by screaming mobs. They seem incapable of even understanding the long view, that governments in general can't be trusted with absolute power, and that this Government (all bow) could end up in the hands of another Hitler.

As a result, I have a throwaway comment I like to use to infuriate liberal Jews: "I used to think Jews were loud but intelligent, but since they came for my guns, I now just think they're loud". (You should see my Jewish relatives go ballistic...)

61 posted on 04/03/2002 11:18:08 AM PST by fire_eye
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To: fire_eye
Earlier today, after this thread was launched, I wondered to myself if perhaps liberal American Jews mis-direct their Holocaust fury not at "government" per se (as in, the Nazi regime that perpetrated the Holocaust)but at the tools that enabled government to carry out the Final Solution. Since the Nazi braintrust was long ago eradicated and its foot soldiers deceased or tottering about in their infirmity, there remains little of a breathing reminder for Holocaust survivors to associate with Hitlerian terror. But guns! Ahh, yes, the guns! They are still with us. Not that this makes any more sense to me (I find absolutely zero moral equivalency between my .12 gauge pump shotgun and an S.S. trooper's machine pistol). However, the theory WAS rattling around in my head. The letter writer you mention seems to be of that mindset. One wonders if he ever considered the fact that a good many of the American riflemen who liberated the death camps in the spring of '45 were a product of the "gun culture" that he now so urgently wishes to eradicate under the guise of "public safety."
64 posted on 04/03/2002 12:05:04 PM PST by Basil Duke
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