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To: rdf
...created three new states (Kansas, Nevada, and West Virginia) without the formal consent of the citizens of those states...

I would suggest that DiLorenzo at long last take a look at the Constitution he claims Lincoln was trashing as well as a look at the timelines involved. To begin with, Kansas was admitted to the Union in January 29, 1861 - over a month before Lincoln was inagurated. Secondly, the Constitution is silent on the subject of how a territory becomes a state, only stating that a majority of the votes in Congress are required. A piece of legislation called an enabling act is introduced in both houses and it gets voted on. In the case of Nevada, the enabling act was introduced in February 1864, passed both houses, and was signed by President Lincoln on March 21, 1864. Likewise with West Virginia, the enabling act passed Congress on December 31, 1862 with the provision that the state constitution mandate gradual emancipation. The constitution was so amended and Lincoln signed the statehood legislation on April 20, 1863 to take affect 60 days later. I fail to see where the Constitution was violated in either case.

31 posted on 04/03/2002 12:14:51 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
I would suggest that DiLorenzo at long last take a look at the Constitution he claims Lincoln was trashing as well as a look at the timelines involved. To begin with, Kansas was admitted to the Union in January 29, 1861 - over a month before Lincoln was inagurated.

This pretty much says it all.

Who can pay attention to this clown after his latest howler.

Wonder what Jefferson said to his "good friend Tocqueville," as Dilorenzo once put it, on the question of the admission of Kansas? Wait ... Jefferson was dead then? ... well, quickly scrub the lewrockwell.com site ... mustn't let folks know that we actually said this ...

What morons!

32 posted on 04/03/2002 12:19:45 PM PST by rdf
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To: Non-Sequitur
I'll make you a bet.

Ten dollars says lewrockwell.com edits the DiLorenzo rant by tomorrow morning.

Remember the Jefferson/Tocqueville friendship!

LOL

Richard F.

34 posted on 04/03/2002 12:25:04 PM PST by rdf
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To: Non-Sequitur
In the case of West Virginia, was that not carved out of the State of Virginia or one of the other states? If so, then the state giving up the territory to form a new state would have to agree thru its legislature, as well as the Congress, per Article 4, Section 3.

I must tell you I am not up to speed for sure on how West Virginia came into being.

39 posted on 04/03/2002 1:03:18 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Non-Sequitur
I suggest you bone up on the Kansas Nebraska act

Kansas-Nebraska act, which was signed into law in 1854. Kansas-Nebraska proclaimed "Popular Sovereignty" in the territories, allowing the people of each new territory to decide whether or not slavery would be admitted when they achieved statehood, rather than restricting it as the Missouri Compromise had.

48 posted on 04/03/2002 1:40:39 PM PST by VinnyTex
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To: Non-Sequitur
Clear and concise. I love your comments. Hope you're wearing your flame retardent underwear.
169 posted on 04/04/2002 7:01:32 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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