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To: davidjquackenbush
I apologize if I have mistaken you for someone who believes that Lincoln had the barest regard for the Constitution as supreme law of the land. If we agree that the Supremes overstepped their authority and that there is no federal law prohibiting the states from ignoring the ruling in Roe v. Wade and therefore no need for further federal law nor for an amendment to the Constitution, then I'm very surprised.

I thought you just asserted quite the opposite in answer to my observation that the states still have the power to absolutely prohibit abortion within their boundaries. I apologize for misreading you if you agree with me that the states are sovereign and have the power to legislate on this issue regardless of the opinion of the Supreme Court.

235 posted on 04/04/2002 3:35:57 PM PST by Twodees
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To: Twodees
I apologize if I have mistaken you for someone who believes that Lincoln had the barest regard for the Constitution as supreme law of the land.

Oh, please. I will content myself with mentioning that Lincoln's support for the Fugitive Slave Law was unvarying, and personally quite painful, and grounded ONLY in his respect for the Constitution.

If we agree that the Supremes overstepped their authority

Of course.

and that there is no federal law prohibiting the states from ignoring the ruling in Roe v. Wade and therefore no need for further federal law nor for an amendment to the Constitution, then I'm very surprised.

Federal laws trump state laws. There are, I believe, a significant number of federal statutes passed in the wake of Roe v. Wade which incorporate its pernicious doctrine into law, and I believe nullification is rebellion. I do not believe that when the federal government judges a matter to be under its jurisdiction, the states can simply disagree and ignore. At the moment, damn them, the federal government, all three branches, are agreed that the right to abortion is the operative Constitutional law of the land.

For this reason, and for deeper ones as well, I believe that the federal government must be directed by the people to repent of this doctrine. It should do so not in a way that suggests that aborting unborn children is to be left to the pleasure of the states to adopt or reject as it pleases them, because all states, counties, cities and whatever other communities in the American Republic are bound by the Declaration. Should the federal government refuse, permanently, to repent of authorizing killing of the unborn as fundamental national law, the people should alter or abolish our federal government and replace it with one that respects the laws of Nature and Nature's God. But at the moment our problem is that the people, who are the real sovereigns, have failed to instruct our national government to repent of reading abortion into the Constitution.

In sum, I think the differences between us reduce to the supremacy clause of the Constitution. I am sorry if this statement provokes another personal attack from you. I think the matters involved to be deep and difficult. I trust that, as one who has enough courage to rebuke Lincoln for disrespect of the Constitution, you acknowledge the supremacy of federal to state legislation as that document directs.

249 posted on 04/04/2002 5:15:54 PM PST by davidjquackenbush
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