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To: davidjquackenbush
What on earth are you talking about? That is the most convoluted garbage I have ever read, son. Stop and pinch yourself a little here. It is the federal government which has established this holocaust against the unborn, not the states. While the states still held their rightful power to decide whether or not abortion was to be illegal, abortion was illegal almost everywhere.

How can you possibly hope to make the point that the federal government must clean up the mess it has made by exercising even more unconstitutional power? Please retreat to the safety of you social club's site. You're absolutely destroying what little credibility Dr. Keyes and your club have.

You boys may as well start working on your grand finale. I know you have one in the works somewhere in the fevered single consciousness you all so obviously share. Trot it out so that it can be dismantled.

123 posted on 04/04/2002 3:25:24 AM PST by Twodees
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To: Twodees
While the states still held their rightful power to decide whether or not abortion was to be illegal, abortion was illegal almost everywhere.

No it wasn't. There were only a few states in the union where you couldn't get one for "one reason or another". In the others, there were restrictions more in name than fact. In Pennsylvania it was 'illegal' unless necessary to 'protect the health' of the Mother, so every woman who wanted an abortion just said it would mess up her mental health to have a baby and some Doc would sign the papers. The old state laws were so full of loopholes you could drive an 18 wheeler through them.

Same with divorce. Up till the 70s, you couldn't get a divorce in New York unless there was infidelity. So people who really wanted a divorce would just swear there was even if there wasn't.

Stopping abortion is more about changing minds than changing laws.

128 posted on 04/04/2002 4:07:29 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Twodees
Sorry you couldn't understand what I wrote.

Once the claim is made by the Supreme Court that there is a Constitutional right to abortion, their must be a clarification of the right to abortion under the Constitution. The Court (or another, trumping federal authority, such as the people by amendment) must retract this false doctrine. And not by saying, "oops, didn't mean that." But by saying, "We got it exactly backwards." Roe V. Wade did not merely allow abortion, it assaulted first principles of the whole regime. That damage will not be repaired by a technical retraction, but by an explanation of what was really wrong with the decision -- which was its denial of human equality. Please note that giving a fundamental explanation of the error would not be the same as imposing a new federal law. That's a separate question, and one that would be interesting to take up. The best route, of course would be a Constitutional amendment.

I hope that's clearer.

146 posted on 04/04/2002 5:32:11 AM PST by davidjquackenbush
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