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FOX News Question of the Day--Is what is happening in the middle east the same as 9/11?
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Posted on 04/02/2002 8:19:22 AM PST by liberalism=failure

Netanyahu was on fox news claiming that what is happening to Israel is equivalent to what happened to the US on 9-11. So they put out the question--

Is what is happening in the middle east the same as 9/11?


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To: liberalism=failure
Our country has risen in justified outrage and has gone to war to pursue those who have inflicted 4,000 casualties on us. Israel has 1/50 of the population of the United States. The about 500 Jews who have been killed by the Palestinians in the past 18 months corresponds to about 25,000 killed in the United States. Would the American people stand still for that?
41 posted on 04/02/2002 12:40:50 PM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
The about 500 Jews who have been killed by the Palestinians in the past 18 months corresponds to about 25,000 killed in the United States. Would the American people stand still for that?

No. Indeed its almost unbelievable how passive the Israelis have been. But that's part of the problem. When Bush acted after 9-11 he tried to gather allies. But even if NO ONE would agree to help us we would have gone in a taken care of business anyway, and screw what the world thinks about it.

Israel needs to stop worrying about what the rest of the world thinks, wage full out war against the Palestinians. Then, and only then, when they are defeated, impose a peace settlement at the point of a gun. That's the only way this thing will ever end.

42 posted on 04/02/2002 12:49:51 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: liberalism=failure
In other words we can make one standard for us and another for them. We can set up principles for being against terrorist attacks when they are on us, and ignore those principles when they are on others. Sounds like hypocrisy to me.

If one considers our respective wars one in the same, then I would agree with you 100% that it would be hypocritical. But as I've stated before, I don't see these situations as equivalent.

Well, too bad, because he's right. We should be ashamed of the hypocrisy of our government. And I'd say considering how two faced our government is being he was a lot nicer about it than I would be.

I don't like him, or trust him, or really care what he has to say.

And as for the 9-11 attacks, we still don't know all who assisted in the attack. Really?

IMHO, yes. I consider those who had prior knowledge of the attacks and used it as a profiteering opportunity "assisting". How `bout you?

Hmm. Well, don't keep me in suspense here who do you think its going to be??????

Like the great Alfred Hitchcock, I appreciate the importance of allowing the suspense to build. ;o)
43 posted on 04/02/2002 12:52:39 PM PST by wheezer
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To: liberalism=failure
I can't get past purposely targeting kids in discos, restaurants, etc.

Their god is a hateful one, if his followers act so to earn his blessings.

44 posted on 04/02/2002 12:54:16 PM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: Mr. Thorne
I can't get past purposely targeting kids in discos, restaurants, etc. Their god is a hateful one, if his followers act so to earn his blessings.

Agreed. We are often told that we all worship the same god. But I don;t see any other group behaving this way, except Muslims.

Perhaps its not the religion but rather the culture that is based on it. But either way, with a few small exceptions, Islam and its followers are the greatest evil that exists in the world right now. (and the neo-marxist PC movement that is allied with them is almost as great an evil--and the two combined with America's ambivelance are destroying Israel)

45 posted on 04/02/2002 2:01:53 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: wheezer
If one considers our respective wars one in the same, then I would agree with you 100% that it would be hypocritical. But as I've stated before, I don't see these situations as equivalent.

But you've never stated a single argument as to why they are not. And unless you can do so adequately then you are a hypocrite.

I don't like him (Netanyahu), or trust him, or really care what he has to say.

This is nothing but ad hominem argument. Whether you feel you can "trust" Netanyahu has nothing to do with the morality of endorsing a country defending itself against the Bin Ladens that wish to attack it. If Netanyahu said 2+2=4 he would still be right whether you "trust" him or "like" him not wouldn't he?

yes. I consider those who had prior knowledge of the attacks and used it as a profiteering opportunity "assisting". How `bout you?

Who ARE you talking about?

46 posted on 04/02/2002 2:09:53 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: Heartlander
Not that it's really important, but I'm dying to know what he's referring to here:

"The caps lock button is on the left just above the shift button."
13 posted on 4/2/02 9:41 AM Pacific by Seti 1

48 posted on 04/02/2002 3:08:04 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: liberalism=failure
1. I LOVE Netanyahu; he is one of the most intelligent men on the planet at this moment.
There is only one person qualified to take over Israel, and that is Netanyahu.
2. I agree that this is, if not worse than 9/11, it is easily equivalent to it.
3. I'm beginning to believe that Islam is a BOGUS religion, based upon the ravings of a lunatic,
and it is NOT used as a religion, but rather as a tool for opportunistic criminals.
4. Seti 1 is probably a smart-a$$ sixteen-year-old.
49 posted on 04/02/2002 3:23:18 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: liberalism=failure
But I guess being a frigging moron...

Did you just learn the word "moron"? You throw it at any one you disagree with. From your posts I would guess that most anyone writing in here could match IQs with you and give you lots of change.

50 posted on 04/02/2002 3:31:30 PM PST by Seti 1
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To: EggsAckley
No, it's not important, Eggs. The convention is that things written in all caps are shouting. I thought some folks might want to shout when calling me nasty names. We've got all the gung-ho-for-Israel types aboard for this one.
51 posted on 04/02/2002 3:36:37 PM PST by Seti 1
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To: EggsAckley
Totally agreed on all points
52 posted on 04/02/2002 3:39:30 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: liberalism=failure
Netanyahu was on fox news claiming that what is happening to Israel is equivalent to what happened to the US on 9-11.

Benjamin Netanyahu is accurate and incisive as always.

He was subverted by the traitor-rapist 42 who sent the alligator-alien-mutant to install Barak.

Barak made such dangerous concessions he could not reveal them to his closest advisors.

Arafat rejected peace and declared war, sending an unending stream of butchery to those who offered peace.

Osama massacred our innocents--and we responded decisively with overwhelming force.

We remain wrongheaded in counselling restraint on Israel's part, when that nation's war on terrorism predates our own, and is in fact, seamlessly joined with ours.

Israel's current decisive action is as justified as our own, long overdue, and deserves our support.

53 posted on 04/02/2002 3:41:18 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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To: Seti 1
We've got all the gung-ho-for-Israel types aboard for this one.

Wrong, its called gung ho to wipe out Islamic terrorists and being consistent enough (and not a hater of Jews) to apply that standard universally.

Tell me Seti, when the Palestinians cheered on 9-11 as our citizens were murdered, were you cheering with them, after all you ARE on their side aren't you?

54 posted on 04/02/2002 3:44:28 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: PhilDragoo
We remain wrongheaded in counselling restraint on Israel's part, when that nation's war on terrorism predates our own, and is in fact, seamlessly joined with ours.

Your post was execllent, and especially this point which is one that, sadly, seems lost on Bush. These groups have already put out leaflets just this week urging attacks on US interests because of our "bias" (translation: we didn't send in troups to save little ugly raghead boy when he called to the "Great Satan" for help). If Israel goes we will be next, did anyone forget that it was Muslims that came and killed our people?

They hate us just as almost as much as they do Israel. And the notion that appeasing these slimebags antisemitism is going to stop them from hating us is about as smart as believing that OJ is searching for the real killers.

55 posted on 04/02/2002 3:58:20 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: Seti 1, wheezer
from Ottawa Citizen

"There is presently a large traffic of intelligence "content" between the Israeli government and the CIA, Pentagon, U.S. State Department and White House in Washington. Connections between the Palestinian Authority and international Islamist terror organizations, including al-Qaeda, are being established, chapter and verse."

It seems we and Israel have a COMMON enemy does it not?

56 posted on 04/02/2002 4:48:53 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: liberalism=failure
If Netanyahu said 2+2=4 he would still be right whether you "trust" him or "like" him not wouldn't he?

My clock stopped at 10:42...... at 10:42 a.m., and 10:42 p.m., I have a working clock?
57 posted on 04/02/2002 5:10:46 PM PST by wheezer
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To: Seti 1
We've got all the gung-ho-for-Israel types aboard for this one.

Actually, it's more like the 'Islamic rebels are barbarians' types, IMHO.

As I pointed out in an earlier post, somewhere in all those alternate universes, where the might-have-beens play with the ifs, is a world where the PLO reacted not as bloody barbarians, intent upon genocide, but as an oppressed people, suing for their liberation. Where the palestinian Ghandi/Martin Luther King, Jr., leads non violent protests to call attention to his people's plight. Where violence, when it does erupt, is a shameful thing, and peace is clearly in sight.

But that is make believe.

We live in the here and now, where a band of butchers, who by their very charter seek the death of a race of people, are lead by cowards who send befuddled youth on suicide missions to kill women and children. On purpose.

We live in the world where war is the natural state of man, and all the wailing and beating of one's breast will not wipe up a single drop of blood.

58 posted on 04/02/2002 6:01:35 PM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: wheezer
My clock stopped at 10:42...... at 10:42 a.m., and 10:42 p.m., I have a working clock?

I would like to continue this debate with you but you are no longer making any sense.

In addition you have not made a single logical argument to support your conclusion. And lastly, you haven't addressed almost any of the points I have put forth.

Please do so. I would enjoy hearing a different point of view from my own. I often learn something in the process. But only if the person disgreeing has logical and legitimate arguments to offer. So I hope you will do so soon.

59 posted on 04/02/2002 7:55:24 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: Mr. Thorne
We live in the world where war is the natural state of man, and all the wailing and beating of one's breast will not wipe up a single drop of blood.

To deny your point would be to deny history but the future is ours to make. One can only hope.

In the meantime the wailing and breast beating continues for the hundreds of Israeli dead but not for the thousands of Palestinian dead (not to mention the million Iraqi dead).

60 posted on 04/03/2002 11:37:03 AM PST by Seti 1
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