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To: Reagan Man
The National Drug Control Strategy is working well and targets people who want to distribute drugs, profit from drug sales and ingest illegal drugs. That includes drug kingpins and local drug dealers.

Oh really? In 2000, there were 750,000 arrests involving marijuana. Over 90 percent were for simple possession. Not for selling, not for providing to minors, not for unsafe behavior. That was over HALF of ALL drug arrests. Do you care to even acknowledge the facts?

The NDCS isn't aimed at law abiding citizens.

Oh really? That's why 76 year old women are being evicted from their HUD housing because their grandchildren are caught with drugs 3 blocks away from the project?

Across the board drug legalization has minuscule support here in the US.

First off, there is a significant differnece between legalization and decriminilization. I get the feeling you dont distinguish. Second, to the extent that you might be meaning ANY law that dulls the current drug laws, you're WAY wrong. Sure, most people dont want crack to be legal, but most people know that marijuana is safer than alcohol and that it really doesnt make any sense for it to be criminal.

Unlike, the cavalier approach that most Europeans take towards drug use, Americans understand the destructive and immoral nature of the beast.

This is the comment of someone whose never been to Europe. There are plenty of people against drugs in Europe. Your morality comment is interesting. I didn't realize that the Constitution was meant to be side-stepped when people decide that freedoms arent important if its the freedom to do something they consider immoral.

The pure ignorance involved in concluding that Marijuana is "immoral" but alcohol is ok is astounding.

Americans also understand how hard core drugs, ravage the minds of users over time, especially the developing intellectual and emotional capacity of our children.

What do you consider to be a hard core drug?

If you expect drugs, like cocaine, heroin and marijuana, to be legalized here in America, you're fooling yourself. Americans continue to support intervention and incarceration, to counter illicit drug use.

In case you arent reading the news, the majority of Americans are IN FAVOR of medical marijuana, which is contrary to your claim. Likewise, the majority of Americans are NOT in favor of jail time for recreational marijuana users.


25 posted on 04/04/2002 8:59:05 AM PST by jurisdog
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To: jurisdog
RE: #24 & #25.

Okay. One round of tit for tat and that's it!

"... there is a definite link between drug trafficking and the sponsorship of world-wide terrorist organizations".
>>>What link? Cite a source for that please.<<<

Read the article!
"John P. Walters, director of the White House drug office, said the idea for connecting drug use and terrorism came after the State Department identified 28 terrorist organizations and linked nearly half of them to drug trafficking."

>>>The idea that SOME drugs have a link to terrorists is plausible, but ALL drugs? Thats the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard.<<<

I never said anything about "ALL drugs". You did!

>>>I know very very few people who want to legalize heroic, cocaine AND marijuana. Many people are for decriminalizing all 3, but not legalizing. Most people I know are only for legalizing marijuana. As for being out of my mind because I am for decriminalization, I guarantee you I am not.<<<

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!
The vast majority of American's don't favor decriminalization or legalization for any illicit drugs. Even with marijuana, 70% of people oppose it being decriminalized. The reason most people you know, want to legalize pot, I venture to guess, is the same reason Bill Buckley wants pot legalized. Let's be honest, Buckley is a pot smoker and its quite obvious, so are many of your friends. LOL

>>>In 2000, there were 750,000 arrests involving marijuana. Over 90 percent were for simple possession. Not for selling, not for providing to minors, not for unsafe behavior. That was over HALF of ALL drug arrests. Do you care to even acknowledge the facts?<<<

I'll acknowledge your facts. Simple possession or not, marijuana is an illegal and controlled substance. Period!

"The NDCS isn't aimed at law abiding citizens".
>>>Oh really? That's why 76 year old women are being evicted from their HUD housing because their grandchildren are caught with drugs 3 blocks away from the project?<<<

That's too bad, but nobody said life was fair. I don't think the government is perfect, because people aren't perfect. I've got news for you, this world isn't a perfect place we all live in.

>>>... but most people know that marijuana is safer than alcohol and that it really doesnt make any sense for it to be criminal.<<<

Marijuana is safer then alcohol? That's a highly subjective statement and far from the truth. Alcohol is a legal substance, marijuana is not. Legalize marijuana and you would see it's level of use and abuse, skyrocket. The ramifications of legalizing marijuana, would have far reaching and wide ranging, detrimental effects, on every aspect of our society and culture, just as alcohol abuse has a negative impact, on so many lives today.

"Unlike, the cavalier approach that most Europeans take towards drug use, Americans understand the destructive and immoral nature of the beast".
>>>This is the comment of someone whose never been to Europe. I didn't realize that the Constitution was meant to be side-stepped when people decide that freedoms arent important if its the freedom to do something they consider immoral.<<<

You assume to know where I've traveled in my life, but the truth is, you don't have a clue.
The Constitution wasn't designed, created and established so you can have the right to ingest illicit drugs. You've got a lot to learn about life and people.

>>>The pure ignorance involved in concluding that Marijuana is "immoral" but alcohol is ok is astounding.<<<

You're being ignorant, not me. I've not initiated any comments on alcohol, except in response to your rhetoric. I never said excessive alcohol use doesn't lead to immoral behavior either. While you're entitled to your own opinion, you're not entitled to fabricate your own facts.

>>>... the majority of Americans are IN FAVOR of medical marijuana, which is contrary to your claim.<<<

What claim are you talking about? I've made no claim concerning medical marijuana. Being "IN FAVOR of medical marijuana", has nothing to do with support for its decriminalization, or legalization.

>>>Likewise, the majority of Americans are NOT in favor of jail time for recreational marijuana users.<<<

Most recreational marijuana users, aren't charged for first time possession of small amounts of pot. Even on many second and third possession charges for marijuana, most people are either let go, or given probation. Your remarks have no merit. OTOH, Americans continue to support intervention and incarceration, to counter illicit drug use, especially when it involves, drug kingpins and local drug dealers in our communities.

You're a mass of contradiction and I know why! LOL

27 posted on 04/04/2002 1:31:43 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: jurisdog
Reagan Man's type doesn't need or want facts. Facts just get in the way of their "common sense".
50 posted on 04/05/2002 8:24:34 AM PST by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: jurisdog
bump.
53 posted on 04/05/2002 10:16:32 AM PST by headsonpikes
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