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Pakistan Hands Over Senior Al-Qaida Leader Zubaydah to United States
Associated Press ^ | Apr 1, 2002 | John J. Lumpkin

Posted on 04/01/2002 1:44:19 PM PST by aristeides

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Confirmation that the captive is Abu Zubaydah.

If this guy can be induced to talk, it's the end of Al Qaeda.

1 posted on 04/01/2002 1:44:20 PM PST by aristeides
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To: terrorwar; knighthawk; lion's cub; travis mcgee; harpseal
FYI.
2 posted on 04/01/2002 1:45:23 PM PST by aristeides
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Betcha I could make him talk...sit him in front of a video of the Oscars and he'd quickly become a blubbering squealer.

If that don't do it, well, it's time to get medieval with his sorry butt.

3 posted on 04/01/2002 1:52:40 PM PST by jwfiv
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To: aristeides
Musharraf is taking a step into the right direction with this move.
4 posted on 04/01/2002 1:53:54 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: aristeides
It's time for creative interrogation!
5 posted on 04/01/2002 2:03:01 PM PST by Balata
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To: aristeides
The interrogation techniques that may be necessary to loosen Zubaydah's tongue are better administered on Pakistani soil by surrogates. I don't think Rummy should rush to bring this guy to Cuba.
6 posted on 04/01/2002 2:06:09 PM PST by beckett
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To: aristeides
Zubaydah was shot in the stomach, legs and groin by Pakistanis as he tried to escape one of the raids

Gotta hand it to the Pakistanis...shooting the terrorists there just might reduce resistance in the future.

Personally, I hope Zubaydah is now speaking in a very high-pitched voice, and will never again have the ability to produce murderous offspring.

7 posted on 04/01/2002 2:11:12 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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If this guy can be induced to talk, it's the end of Al Qaeda.

Induced? He's not a citizen of this country, and frankly I don't care how our Military makes him blurt out everything he knows.

Drug him, beat him, torture him, cut off his genitalia, I don't care what they do to get the information out of him. Treat him how one of ours would be treated if they captured our #2 Military personnel.

They're animals, and deserve to be treated as such. As soon as we get every last piece of information out of him, draw his head back, slit his throat, decapitate him, and send his head home to his mother. Film it, and broadcast it across every satellite, and tv channel across the planet.

Stop conducting such a "sanitary" war with these people and let's get down and dirty. It's the only thing they understand.

8 posted on 04/01/2002 2:13:16 PM PST by usconservative
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Drug him, beat him, torture him, cut off his genitalia ... slit his throat, decapitate him, and send his head home to his mother.

Why don't we go one step further and all just convert to Islam? Atleast then we'd be honest about the true source of our inspiration. What you described is not how America should be fighting wars. But if we were Islamic, that wouldn't be a problem.

9 posted on 04/01/2002 2:19:28 PM PST by AM2000
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Besides, it's pointless. The right drugs are a much more effective method than the rough stuff (as satisfying as it might be to daydream about inflicting the latter on these lowlifes).
10 posted on 04/01/2002 2:35:13 PM PST by steve-b
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To: AM2000
Why don't we go one step further and all just convert to Islam?

You missed the point of the post. The only thing these "people" seem to understand, is when they're treated in the same way they treat others. What do you think would happen if they captured General Franks? Think they'd let him live? Of course not. They'd get what info. they could from him and do exactly what I said above. We already KNOW that's what they'd do, because of Daniel Pearl. How soon some people forget.

These people inflict the most degrading, inhumane treatment and punishment on their victims. Turn it around on 'em I say.

11 posted on 04/01/2002 2:56:59 PM PST by usconservative
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You really should try to speak in a less ambiguous manner....
12 posted on 04/01/2002 3:03:40 PM PST by tracer
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To: aristeides
This is huge. Zubaydah isn't just high up in al-Qaida. He's probably the head of it, because I think bin Laden is already dead.
13 posted on 04/01/2002 3:07:36 PM PST by Dog Gone
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>It's time for creative interrogation!

There are interrogators and then there are interrogators. Lets say this guy is not going to be eating our Fruit Loops and whining to the chaplain at Camp X-ray for the foreseeable future.

14 posted on 04/01/2002 3:17:09 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: aristeides
If this guy can be induced to talk, it's the end of Al Qaeda.

Anybody can be made to talk, just depends on the strength of the man's will and how far below the line of fair play the interrogator wants to descend to get the information. Or so I am told.

In any case, the sad fact is that there are plenty more where this one came from, including I suspect, in Pakistan's security service--- so I don't see a quick end to it even if this guy can be made to talk. Certainly would put a dent in their standard mode of operation however.

15 posted on 04/01/2002 3:36:32 PM PST by jgorris
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16 posted on 04/01/2002 3:42:19 PM PST by Free the USA
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A chain saw, operated by an individual who appears never to have touched one before, can be an intimidating piece of hardware....particularly in close quarters.
17 posted on 04/01/2002 3:45:13 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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A chain saw, operated by an individual who appears never to have touched one before, can be an intimidating piece of hardware....particularly in close quarters.

Yea, how about an ex wife? LOL! ;^)

18 posted on 04/01/2002 3:48:27 PM PST by Balata
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Actually, reporter Lumpkin corrected his report that Abu Zubaydah had been sent to Guantanamo in a slightly later dispatch: Capture of Abu Zubaydah could be serious blow to al-Qaida's attempts to reorganize.

So, maybe he's still in Pakistan, as you want, or maybe he's been shipped to Jordan (where he's already been condemned to death.) Remember that Yemeni microbiology student that was turned over to American authorities at Karachi airport late last year? There was recently a report that he had been shipped to Jordan.

19 posted on 04/01/2002 3:50:07 PM PST by aristeides
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Your point is well taken. However, I think steve's solution is better, since that way we get what we want (information) and we can do it without becoming a caricature of a barbarian jihadi.
20 posted on 04/01/2002 4:50:04 PM PST by AM2000
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