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**CAPTION TIME** Photo of Lindh at Camp Rhino in Kandahar, Afghanistan
Yahoo News Photos ^ | 4-1-02

Posted on 04/01/2002 1:38:53 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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U.S. Taliban fighter John Walker Lindh returned to federal court on April 1, 2002 as his lawyers battled with government prosecutors over what kind of evidence can be used in his conspiracy trial. This picture, released by Lindh's lawyers on April 1, 2002 as part of the evidence, was taken by the US government when Lindh was at Camp Rhino in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in December 2001. Photo by Reuters (Handout)


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KEYWORDS: johnwalkerlindh; taliban
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To: dead
Well, that's convenient.

We can just torture our citizens in other countries.

21 posted on 04/01/2002 1:56:17 PM PST by Freetus
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To: Freetus
Well that's convenient too. We can reach a conclusion of torture from a picture of a guy tied to a cot.

He was captured taking up arms against our armed forces. Do we not have the right to tie him up upon capture?

Perhaps you would sing Kumbaya at him to prevent him from further attempts at killing you.

23 posted on 04/01/2002 2:01:32 PM PST by dead
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To: Freetus
We can just torture our citizens in other countries

I see you have taken the bait from Johnny Walker Lindh's lawyers.

24 posted on 04/01/2002 2:02:29 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: reprobate_mind
Are you a simpleton? You do not carry your rights under the US Constitution with you when you travel abroad.

And you certainly do not retain them on a battlefield against US soldiers.

Would you also allow him his first amendment and second amendment rights too, you twit? That way he could tell others where you are or he could kill you himself.

25 posted on 04/01/2002 2:03:53 PM PST by dead
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Actually that is just a picture of Johnny Jihad when he borrowed his Dad's favorite homo sexual encounter game for San Francisco and Marin inner left wingers!
26 posted on 04/01/2002 2:04:59 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: reprobate_mind
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Especially for traitors, huh?

27 posted on 04/01/2002 2:06:32 PM PST by AlGone2001
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To: Freetus
Well, that's convenient.

We can just torture our citizens in other countries.

Grow up.

He allied himself with "people" who are dedicated to the destruction of the U. S.

And he was too cowardly to align himself with them totally by denouncing his citizenship, because he figured the day would come when he could hide behind the U. S. Constitution and be supported by "thoughtful" citizens like yourself.

Boo-hoo.

28 posted on 04/01/2002 2:07:32 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: reprobate_mind
I was under the impression that he was an American citizen being tried in the American court system.

If you remember, it was not known in the beginning whether he would be tried by a US Courts Martial (as an enemy soldier), or as an American citizen aiding and abetting the enemy.

Maybe you should have gone in and retrieved him?

Ahem... he's dangerous.

29 posted on 04/01/2002 2:10:46 PM PST by AlGone2001
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To: reprobate_mind
That's nice, but it's not applicable to people captured on the field of battle in a foreign country.

Of course, considering the crime, there is no such thing as excessive bail, nor excessive fines, nor has the guy experienced excessive punishment.

Being taped up buck naked in the battlefield is rather light. Too bad the rest of 'em weren't taped up buck naked- if they had, they wouldn't have snuck weapons into the compound and Mr. Spann would be alive today. Johhnny the traitor should have been shot for joining in the prisoner rebellion and not coming out of the building when ordered to do so.

30 posted on 04/01/2002 2:10:53 PM PST by piasa
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To: reprobate_mind
If I remember correctly he was wounded so that may explain the cot. As far as the restraints, he is a prisoner and from the photo, there doesn't seem to be any physical discomfort. Legally, he's being tried by a military tribunal which has nothing to do with the rights of a civilian.
31 posted on 04/01/2002 2:11:06 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Grampa Dave
snicker
33 posted on 04/01/2002 2:13:12 PM PST by katykelly
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To: reprobate_mind
Do members of the armed forces lose their constitutional rights as well when fighting abroad?

When they fight for the enemy?

34 posted on 04/01/2002 2:15:57 PM PST by AlGone2001
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To: reprobate_mind
His treatment BEFORE being brought to the US while still an unlawful combatant in a war on foreign soil, is not relevent. Only his treatment AFTER he was removed from the Asian theater of operations is relevent. And that includes his time on the warship, which was in the theater of operations.

Since he has been handed over to the civil authorities he has been treated like any other prisoner in the US court system.

35 posted on 04/01/2002 2:15:58 PM PST by piasa
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To: reprobate_mind
" Do members of the armed forces lose their constitutional rights as well when fighting abroad?"

Military personnel don't have civilian constitutional rights. I hope I'm wrong but that's the way it was explained to me way back when.

36 posted on 04/01/2002 2:17:22 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: CyberCowboy777
Yes. Too bad they taped him down, it would be better had he been tipped into the ocean. Oops.
37 posted on 04/01/2002 2:17:32 PM PST by piasa
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To: reprobate_mind
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted

It doesn't look cruel to me -- what it looks is unusual, which, if they did this more, it wouldn't be.

38 posted on 04/01/2002 2:18:17 PM PST by Howlin
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To: reprobate_mind

Amendment VIII: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Are you implying, based on the photographic evidence, that cruel and unusual punishment was inflicted on Mr. Lindh?

39 posted on 04/01/2002 2:18:51 PM PST by Logophile
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To: reprobate_mind

"I read him his rights...he's alive and I'm dead...tell my wife and kids his rights were violated you idiot."


40 posted on 04/01/2002 2:18:58 PM PST by Registered
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