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Queen Mum not all she was made out to be
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | April 2 2002 | Gerard Henderson

Posted on 04/01/2002 6:56:17 AM PST by dead

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1 posted on 04/01/2002 6:56:17 AM PST by dead
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To: dead
Sour Grapes.
2 posted on 04/01/2002 7:01:23 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: dead
Also it is widely recognised that the Queen Mother seldom undertook a domestic chore in her life. She was dutiful in performing official tasks but for the rest, lived a life of indulgence..

Oh dear, what a revelation! She was British/Scottish 'royalty', born to wealth and priviledge. We can sneer and nit-pick at the old lady, but she was 101 years old at her death and such fault-finding, more than a half-century past the fact, is rather petty as it is tedious.

3 posted on 04/01/2002 7:02:24 AM PST by Jim Scott
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To: dead
nil sed malum, Mordant, nil sed malum.
4 posted on 04/01/2002 7:02:25 AM PST by fsileeco
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This is what journalism is supposed to be. Its not Royal Family arse kissing. The guy even makes an allusion to the Kennedy spin machine. If only we had a few real reporters in the US instead of our flock of Columbia educated, pablum peddling, establishment worshipping drones.
5 posted on 04/01/2002 7:04:30 AM PST by StockAyatollah
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To: Jim Scott
Modern writing is full of revisionist history. I just chewed through a dreadful New Yorker article on Churchill that took the same slant...
6 posted on 04/01/2002 7:06:28 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: dead
She lived to a grand age without upsetting too many people.

What's the definition of a pointless existence?
I think this is close.

7 posted on 04/01/2002 7:09:23 AM PST by Izzy Dunne
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To: dead
Liberalism 101. Nothing and nobody should not be torn down. It is in the Liberal genes. Tear down the churches, tear down the Boy Scouts, tear down Mother Teresa, tear down the Royal Family, tear down businesses, tear down Thomas Jefferson, tear down the allied effort in WWII, tear down every civic instition not run by the state, tear down Bill Gates, tear down every tradition from Christmas to Columbus day, tear down everything noble and good and replace it with. . .er...well...something or other. They will get around to telling us what that something might be when they are finished wrecking everything.
8 posted on 04/01/2002 7:12:04 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: WhiskeyPapa
It is unbecoming to speak ill of the deceased, especially the recently deceased.

Notwithstanding, one must understand that the English royal familiy is more German than English, and has been since the 18th century when the German House of Hannover was brought to the throne by Parliament. George I didn't even speak English. The revered Victoria's husband was Prince Albert von Saxe-Coeburg Gotha, as German as they come. Thus, Edward VII was fully half-German. Elizabeth II's husband Prince Phillip is a Mountbatten. The von Saxe-Coeburg Goth family changed its name to Windsor during WWI for political reasons, and the von Battenburg's became Mountbatten for the same reason. There were and are people with very deep ties in the German aristocracy.

9 posted on 04/01/2002 7:12:49 AM PST by CatoRenasci
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Boy talk about your cheap shots!

The King and Queen are famous today for the role during World War II only because their advice was rejected by a majority of British politicians. The fact is that in the late 1930s George VI and his wife were among the main cheerleaders in favour of Neville Chamberlain's policy of appeasing Hitler.

This one bugs me the most. Most of England approved of Chamberlain's policy. Chamberlain returned to cheering crowds after he met with hitler. Most politicians approved of Chamberlain's policy. He could not have been their Prime Minister without their support.

But even if this attack was valid, think about what she is accused of? Not knowing how to respond to hitler. I guess that makes her like every other national leader at the time. (with the exception of Churchill, who was hostile to hitler even before he became the PM.) France didn't take hitler seriously until they were doomed. Chamberlain thought hitler could be dealt with by a treaty. So did Stalin. Even that evil Italian dictator(mental block) was tricked by hitler.

10 posted on 04/01/2002 7:14:53 AM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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Excellent post.

It is a rare account of the 30s that accurately portrays Britain's social and political realities.

Churchill was in the wilderness, booed out of a lecture at Oxford where he said Hitler had to be confronted.

The Royals AND the American ambassador to the court of St. James, one Joseph Kennedy, were arch appeasers and defeatists.

Yet, in the glow of victory, the Royals are said to have stood up against the Nazis, and Joe Kennedy is barely a footnote in the nauseatingly fawning American histories that deified FDR.

11 posted on 04/01/2002 7:19:19 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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It takes a special kind of person to offer up slime on someone just after they've died, even before they're planted. I remember when Conrad slimed Nixon on the day of his burial. In my opinion these types of articles say more about the writer than the target.

Life's too short to harbour this much hatred for someone. Give it a few weeks, or a month. Then remind the citizens if you must. At least it will come with less damage to yourself. People screw up in their lifetimes. Many thought Chamberlain was a great guy for making peace with Hitler. Personally I think he goes down as one of the major buffoons in history. But I'd give even him a few weeks before I'd start picking on the bones.

Only a buzzard could have written this pap.

Imagine, the Queen mum wasn't domestic. Oh my God!

12 posted on 04/01/2002 7:19:52 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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Notwithstanding, one must understand that the English royal familiy is more German than English, and has been since the 18th century when the German House of Hannover was brought to the throne by Parliament.

Exactly, we Americans especially tend to forget how interconnected the European royal families were (are?).

13 posted on 04/01/2002 7:33:09 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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The Queen Mum was on this earth for 101 years and this is it? This is the WORST of anything she did?

LOL! Desperate to say something nasty, I guess.

14 posted on 04/01/2002 7:40:53 AM PST by Dianna
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She lived to a grand age without upsetting too many people.

What's the definition of a pointless existence? I think this is close.

Should this become the test of a life well-lived, Marilyn Manson will be remembered as one of the luminaries of the late 20th and early 21st centuries.

I pray that there is more to a worthwhile existence than tallying the people one has upset during a lifetime.

15 posted on 04/01/2002 7:48:44 AM PST by Denver Ditdat
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. As Andrew Roberts points out in his biography of Lord Halifax, titled The Holy Fox, in November 1939 she sent Halifax a copy of Hitler's Mein Kampf. In her accompanying letter, the Queen Mother made reference to Hitler's "obvious sincerity". Really.

This amused me. The author seems to think "obvious sincerity" is some sort of sympathetic description of Hitler's book. I, on the other hand, think that if you take the phrase literally, it is not only accurate, but a proper foreboding: Hitler's writings were "obviously sincere", and as such needed immediate attention. Had the Queen Mother described him as "harmlessly deluded", she would have been inaccurate, and this author would have ripped her for that, too.

16 posted on 04/01/2002 7:50:24 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: dead
"...achieved wall-to-wall publicity following her death at age 101 last weekend.

Pretty big send-off for one who accomplished so much in only one weekend.

17 posted on 04/01/2002 7:51:04 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Denver Ditdat
I have a friend who says his elderly mother called the Queen Mother Elizabeth,,,,Betty Battenberg.
18 posted on 04/01/2002 7:54:37 AM PST by cajungirl
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"The Queen Mum was on this earth for 101 years and this is it? This is the WORST of anything she did?"

Ditto!

She was beloved by her people, which was difficult considering the real heir abdicated the throne, and left Mum and hubby with a job for which he was ill suited and ill prepared.

Not a fan of royalty, but really......... Let her rest in peace.

19 posted on 04/01/2002 7:56:52 AM PST by joathome
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To: dead
Royals pee in a pot just like the rest of us.
20 posted on 04/01/2002 7:59:47 AM PST by babylonian
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