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Account for Danielle's search still has $24,000 (What about money promised to Laura Recovery?)
Union Trib ^ | March 31, 2002 | Kristen Green

Posted on 03/31/2002 1:52:12 PM PST by FresnoDA

Account set up for Danielle's search still has about $24,000



Van Dams undecided on how money will be used

By Kristen Green
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

March 24, 2002

altAfter Danielle van Dam was abducted from her Sabre Springs home, neighbors, friends and even strangers volunteered to help out. Some put up fliers in storefronts around the county, and others joined the search party. But many also opened their checkbooks.

As of Friday, more than $33,000 had been donated by people from New Jersey to Oregon.

During the search for the 7-year-old, donations totaling more than $10,600 flowed into an account in Danielle's name. And since the discovery of her body in rural East County nearly a month after she was reported missing, an additional $22,800 has been deposited.

"We didn't go open an account and ask for money," said family friend Bill Libby, who handled donations for the van Dams. "I opened the account because people wanted to donate money."

Initially, the family expected to use the donations to pay for search expenses, like posters and fliers. After Danielle's body was found, the family Web site said additional donations would be used to pay memorial expenses.

But Libby said the family's expenses have been limited because of numerous donations, from fliers to cremation fees. So far, the van Dams have spent $4,200 of the donations to buy banners, posters and buttons.

And they are writing a $5,000 check to the Laura Recovery Center, which coordinated the search for Danielle.

The family hasn't decided how to use the remaining $24,000.

"I'm sure in due time that they will turn their attention to the appropriate and productive use of those funds, but right now they're really still dealing with the loss of their daughter," said family spokeswoman Sara Muller Fraunces.

Close friends have suggested the van Dams take their time considering how the money will be used. Libby has said the funds could be used to pay for counseling for the family, and the van Dams are considering establishing a local foundation to conduct searches for missing San Diego children.

After Danielle's parents realized she wasn't in her bed the morning of Feb. 2, people began donating money to cover search expenses. Libby tried to open an account at Wells Fargo on behalf of the van Dams.

But the account had to be set up by a nonprofit organization, and a family friend who attends Community Bible Church in Scripps Ranch asked the pastor if the church would sponsor the account. Even though the van Dams aren't members of his congregation, the Rev. Barry Minkow agreed.

Minkow, who was convicted of securities and bank fraud in the late 1980s and served a 71/2-year prison sentence, doesn't have access to the van Dam account, church treasurer Bruce Brown said.

Brown said he is the only person who can withdraw money from the account, taking requests for checks directly from Libby, who acts on the van Dams' behalf.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
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To: MizSterious
And your point is...what? Tying up a thread with off topic graphics?

Now, not so fast.  This graphic is on topic.....that fire hydrant.....Brenda looks like a Do......never mind.....


161 posted on 04/01/2002 11:05:53 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: rolling_stone
Nah, I was just reposting and re-emphasing the relevant points. They are so overlooked, repeatedly and intentionally by some IMHO.

Thanks.

162 posted on 04/01/2002 11:17:03 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: mommya
I think Wintersteen was the family friend who acted as spokesperson, not necessarily professional PR. The other name ring a bell, and I think has connections to Qwest.

FDA probably has the original posts.

163 posted on 04/01/2002 11:24:36 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: FresnoDA
Once Again here is an excellent article lengthy but worth the time

It goes into how the PD investigated a child murder and the things they did right and wrong , conclusion is once they locked on to a theory they looked for facts to back it up instead of finding facts then a theory...by the way their sons were taken away from them immediately...

Stephanie Crowe

At the police station, the Crowes were not allowed to see or talk with one another. Each of the five family members was taken into a room and ordered to undress, one piece of clothing at a time, until they were naked. They were photographed at each stage.

This is standard procedure. Detectives were looking for scratches, cuts, marks of any kind that could have been caused by either a knife or a struggling victim. They found none.

Police confiscated the family's clothes for further testing and took blood, hair and fingernail samples.

Steve Crowe resisted but was told he could either allow himself to be photographed then and there or wait, perhaps for days, in a cell while a court order was obtained. He submitted to the camera.

It is a tale of tragedy and loss, of mindsets shattered and decisions made in the quest for justice and their consequences.

Michael and Cheryl Crowe reported hearing pounding in the night, but neither got up to investigate. When police walked the perimeter, they found no broken doors or windows. A couple of window screens were bent, but in place. Dust, cobwebs and other debris indicated the screens had not been moved.

Detectives initially believed all the windows and doors were locked. Family members told them Stephanie's grandmother had a habit of making sure the house was secure before going to bed.

Later, though, there would be confusion about just what was locked. Steve Crowe was in and out of various doors that panic-fueled morning before the police arrived.

Everyone agrees now that at least two entryways were unlocked: Stephanie's bedroom window and a sliding glass door from the parents' bedroom to the back yard. But police considered it unlikely that someone would have entered through either.

The screen on Stephanie's window was one of those that was bent but appeared undisturbed; it had been pulled out in the bottom left corner and the window left unlocked so a phone line could be run into her room.

To get into the parents' bedroom from outside, someone would have had to open a sliding screen door, which police did find partly open; then open the sliding glass door, which was found closed; and then get past plastic vertical blinds, which also were found closed. Steve and Cheryl Crowe, sleeping just feet away, said they heard nothing.

Cheryl Crowe told police she remembered hearing her bedroom door push open a couple of times that night -- not the glass slider, but the door at the other end of the room, leading to the hallway. She thought it was one of the family's two cats.

All this suggested to Claytor that the killing was an inside job.

No one was surprised by that theory. Most domestic murders are committed by someone known to the victim. The FBI, in fact, trains law enforcers that, when a child is killed in the home, the parents are the first suspects.

If the parents can be ruled out, move next to siblings and others living in the house. Then move to those who had frequent access to the child, a baby-sitter, for example, and then to friends and business associates of the parents.

The final option, under the FBI's protocol, is to look at strangers.

Police investigators the world over follow this line of thinking. Detectives looked first at Steve Crowe, wondering whether maybe he was molesting his daughter and killed her to keep her quiet.

But they also wondered about Michael Crowe.

Family members had been ushered into the living room and told not to talk to each other -- standard police procedure to guard against witnesses' sharing information and contaminating the investigation.

Although the first officer at the scene reported that the Crowes "all appeared to be very upset," others found the 14-year-old boy curiously unemotional.

Claytor would testify that while the rest of the Crowes sat close together on the couch Michael played a hand-held video game. The family disputes this.

Claytor also learned that Michael had been overheard saying he got up in the early morning, about 4:30, and went to the kitchen to take a painkiller. He said he had a headache.

Michael's bedroom was directly across the hallway from Stephanie's. How, the detective wondered, could the teen have left his room and not seen his sister's bloody corpse in her doorway?

164 posted on 04/01/2002 11:34:55 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: FresnoDA
No fres, the problem is that I posted it and not you..get yer facts straight.. ;-) BTW, wrt: being clueless.....tee hee Let's see if this will work..


165 posted on 04/01/2002 11:36:42 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
RSV"Ping"
166 posted on 04/01/2002 11:42:09 AM PST by tutstar
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I've seen posted that DW's house is for sale via his attorney to whom it was deeded...is the VD's house for sale? I wouldn't want to stay in there if someone snuck in and took my child.
167 posted on 04/01/2002 12:11:47 PM PST by demsux
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To: FresnoDA;MizSterious
Did either of you come across any reports that mentioned a "bean bag" being placed in Danielles bed to make it look like she was still in it?

sw

168 posted on 04/01/2002 12:38:58 PM PST by spectre
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To: MizSterious
With the large number of registered child molesters in the area,

I apologize if I missed someone posting the specifics on this, but I'd be very interested in the breakdown of exactly how many "child molesters" were really nearby. Here in Florida, we have sexual offenders listed on the computer, and I've checked the records a few times, for the 2 locations where the kids in my family used to live, plus where they live now, plus where their grandmother lives. The vast majority are NOT any sort of child molester. The records encompass pretty much any sort of crime involving sex in some way, including many crimes which have nothing to do with kids.

169 posted on 04/01/2002 12:47:13 PM PST by Amore
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To: spectre

'An empty bed'

In tearful testimony, she told of the panic she felt after waking up the next morning, going downstairs to make breakfast and then going back upstairs to wake her daughter and finding her gone from her pink-and-purple bedroom.

Danielle's bedroom door was open, she said, and she was asked what she saw inside.

"An empty bed."

She became frantic, she said, searching every room, looking under beds, calling her name. Her husband, Damon van Dam, began searching for Danielle outside.

"I went outside and looked in the Jacuzzi and places you never want to look," she said, "and then I called 911."

A uniformed police officer arrived and asked her, Damon and their two boys to leave the house until investigators arrived, Brenda van Dam testified.

"Before I knew it, it was total chaos," she said. "There were lots of people on the street looking for Danielle. One of our neighbors made missing-child posters.

"We weren't allowed back in by the Police Department because they were searching for evidence."

170 posted on 04/01/2002 12:52:45 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Amore
Around 10 in the immeadiate, 1 mile radius, area....
171 posted on 04/01/2002 12:53:47 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Valpal1
I understand "standard LEO procedure"--but I also understand it's not always followed. For instance, the hearing transcripts also mention walking from the VD home to the Westerfield home without changing their footwear (the little booties they wear over their shoes). Sometimes "stuff" happens. Since you don't know, and can't know, what is not mentioned in the interview, your speculations are worth about as much as anyone else's.
172 posted on 04/01/2002 12:58:35 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: FresnoDA
Again, are you sure they are "child molesters"? Are you sure they weren't talking about a broader category like "sex offenders?" The figure you cite is unbelievable to me. Just think about it. Is it likely that there would be 10 child molesters in such a small area? (Unless they're all living together at a half-way house for child molesters, that is).
173 posted on 04/01/2002 12:59:05 PM PST by Amore
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To: Amore

13 total SO in the area Amore.....also, check out the inconsistencies the VD's early statements were, compared with their testimony a month later.

Police believe girl was abducted



Dog search targets all 184 residences in neighborhood

By Joe Hughes and Brian E. Clark
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITERS

February 5, 2002


Danielle van Dam, missing from Sabre Springs home since Saturday.
Investigators looking for a missing 7-year-old girl now believe the second-grader was kidnapped from her home, and yesterday they conducted a rare search using police dogs targeting all 184 residences in the child's neighborhood.

The house-to-house search was mostly concluded by 10 p.m.

San Diego police continued to interview Danielle van Dam's parents, relatives and friends yesterday. They talked to Danielle's teachers and read a journal she kept in class at Creekside Elementary School in Sabre Springs.

Assistant Police Chief Steve Creighton said officers working nonstop on the disappearance have developed a number of leads, but he would not elaborate.

"We have dedicated 24 hours a day on this case, and we are pulling in more officers and detectives," Creighton said.

Lt. Jim Collins said investigators believe Danielle was kidnapped late Friday or early Saturday by a stranger, but officials declined to provide details.

Police are checking records for registered sex offenders in the area, a tactic some called routine. Records show 13 registered sex offenders are in the Sabre Springs neighborhood where Danielle lives and in nearby San Diego neighborhoods. None of them are considered by the state to be high-risk offenders. An additional 31 registered sex offenders live in nearby Poway.

Danielle's parents yesterday tearfully begged for their daughter's return.

As Brenda van Dam held up a pair of flowered blue pajamas identical to those Danielle was wearing when she went to bed Friday night, Damon van Dam said his family's hearts "ached for this very special girl."

Brenda van Dam said she did not think any parent could describe the feeling that comes "when you get up one morning and go into your daughter's room and she's not there."

Police called for the dog-aided search of the neighborhood after consulting the FBI, which has joined the investigation.

"It is a daunting task," said Lt. Bill Nelson, supervisor of the San Diego police canine unit.

Michael Ebert, a lawyer in the appellate division of the San Diego County District Attorney's Office and an expert in search-and-seizure issues, said forcing residents to submit to a search of their homes may cross constitutional boundaries.

Police said they hoped residents would let them in voluntarily. Ebert said officers would need to obtain search warrants for those who balk.

It was unclear last night whether any residents refused to allow the search.

Ebert said that if neighbors did not let police search their homes, that fact cannot be held against them when police seek a warrant. Police can search a home without a warrant if they have probable cause to believe that someone inside the home is in immediate danger.

Officers said the house-to-house searches involved dogs from the sheriff's and police departments.

One officer conceded the dog search may be "grasping at straws," but said everything must be done to find the girl.

David Westerfield, a friend of the van Dam family who lives a few doors down, said his house was one of the first police dogs searched.

"Police asked me if the dogs could check out my house and I agreed, of course," Westerfield said.

Two sheriff's dogs went in and found nothing.

Westerfield said he was with Danielle's mother and two of her friends Friday night. Brenda van Dam was with the friends at Dad's, a Poway restaurant, when Westerfield said he happened to see them.

Brenda van Dam and the others left about 2 a.m. Saturday and returned to the van Dam home, where Damon van Dam was watching the children, and the group ordered pizza, police said. (NOT TRUE!! It was left over)

Brenda van Dam said she and her husband noticed lights blinking on their burglar alarm panel and found a sliding glass door and side garage door open. The alarm had not been activated, but the panel indicates when doors and windows are opened and closed.

After the gathering broke up about 3 a.m., the couple went to bed. The family did not realize Danielle was missing until the next morning, police said. (Wait, the VD's said everyone left around 3:30???)

Yesterday, friends streamed into the van Dam home to offer support, as a half-dozen television trucks were parked outside.

Paul Hung, who lives three doors west of the van Dams on Mountain Pass Road, said the mystery has unsettled everyone in Sabre Springs, a San Diego neighborhood east of Interstate 15 near Poway.

"It's a nightmare, and it makes us nervous," said Hung, who has two children ages 15 and 17. "Even though my kids are older, they don't feel safe now that this has happened in our neighborhood."

Late last night a police command-post van and a Red Cross van, whose crew served coffee to the officers, remained parked about a block from the van Dam residence after the canine officers concluded their search effort.

The disappearance has affected neighborhoods beyond Sabre Springs. Tina Assi, who lives in Rancho Peñasquitos, said she double-checked to make sure all her doors and windows were locked after hearing of Danielle's disappearance.

Assi said she had yet to talk to her two children, ages 5 and 8, about the missing girl.

"I don't know if I will, because I don't know if I want to upset them," said Assi, who was shopping with her younger child in a Poway Road shopping center.

At Danielle's elementary school, where a patrol car was parked most of the day, security had been increased. Children were hustled into classrooms upon arrival, instead of being allowed on the playground.

The van Dam family is urging residents to visit a Web site set up to aid the search. The address is http://daniellemissing.tripod.com, and it contains a picture and a description of Danielle.


174 posted on 04/01/2002 1:01:44 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Amore
The number of registered child molesters I saw was listed in the San Diego Union-Tribune as being 13 in the neighborhood. Note that they include 184 (or so) houses as being in the neighborhood--so apparently these are not all in the same block. I haven't the time right now to look this article up unfortunately--maybe later.
175 posted on 04/01/2002 1:04:40 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
You are as usual correct "golitely" ooppss....I mean, MizSterious!!! Article copied and posted......hee hee....
176 posted on 04/01/2002 1:07:16 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: demsux
I can't remember for sure, but I think it was fres who posted info on both of the houses... you can go to the san diego county website to find out the latest on their deeds' status. I guess we need to start copying people's posts that offer new ''facts'' like that. It would be in one of the older threads. I seem to recall someone mentioned that dw put his house up for sale and I'd do the same thing if I were you too! I would assume that dw gave his attny limited power of attny to take care of his business/real estate affairs..

We speculated that dw had put it in his attny's name for the purpose of payment for services but we've not found an article about it. The vd's must have taken out a refinance loan or something. We speculated that it was to finance their $25,000 reward. Here's another website that is keeping track of the case..

http://search.about.com/fullsearch.htm?terms=Danielle%20Van%20Dam

If that link doesn't work, try here
http://crime.about.com/library/blfiles/bldaniellevandam.htm?terms=Danielle+Van+Dam..watch out for the pop up ads about.com is famous for.

177 posted on 04/01/2002 1:09:15 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
The pizza leftovers was confirmed by the vd's .That sounds like a police error or reporters error. But it's not proof the vd's err'd. It was more important to know it was ordered vs frozen, correct? Do you think they had it delivered and if so, was the delivery boy/girl interviewed? Besides, what counts is their PH testimony, right?

I thought you might be interested in this. Have you heard if their profile has been released yet?

http://video.uniontrib.com/news/metro/danielle/20020215-9999_7m15girl.html
'We are making progress,' assistant police chief says By Joe Hughes UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER February 15, 2002 In the strongest comments yet about the Danielle van Dam investigation, a high-ranking San Diego police official said yesterday he was confident the case would soon be solved.

"We will solve this case sooner rather than later," Assistant Chief Steve Creighton said. "We have a ton of evidence that we are meticulously going over. We are making progress."

Creighton said the FBI, the state Department of Justice and other agencies are helping police in the investigation. About 60 police employees are working on the case, and a profile of the abductor has been developed.
"We have a very good idea of the psychological makeup of the type of person who would take a child out of its own bedroom under these circumstances," Creighton said.
Creighton said the case has become a priority for Chief David Bejarano, who is being briefed twice daily.
"We are doing this case methodically and by the book," Creighton said.

178 posted on 04/01/2002 1:25:40 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
Close up pic of the scratches
179 posted on 04/01/2002 1:28:09 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
More pics of the scratches--can't forget about them

180 posted on 04/01/2002 1:35:03 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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