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To: Principled
Wow, people, I drove out to my Dad's (about 30 miles) for dinner, and I come back and you're still at it! Way to go. That's dedication.

"There is a plan that eliminates ALL taxes on ANY income, deufnds the IRS, destroys existing income tax records, and erases the entire income tax code. It's HR 2525."

If I'm wrong, everyone can remind me about it later, but this probably has no chance whatsoever of passing. After all, this would require that people voting on its passage lose their jobs, plus many of the jobs of their constituents back home. And therein lies the problems.

We have talked about FTs, VATs, and NSTs. There are good and bad arguments for any or all of these. But the main thing that needs to be done is to limit the amount of money the government can spend. That in itself is a worthy goal, because it makes money collected by government a commodity--there will only be so much of it to go around, thereby increasing its inherent value. Right now, all government does when they need more money is to either borrow it or raise our taxes. And not necessarily in that order. Probably any one of the three tax types would limit the amount of money government has to spend. And once it happens at the national level, we can start working on the state, county, and city levels. My goal is to ensure that no citizen of the US pays any more than 20% of their income in taxes. Period. But is has to be grassroots, because it will not happen if we leave it up to our elected officials. We have to use every means we can to keep up a somewhat-painful reminder that "We, the people" want this reform to happen. Sending in tax booklets and newspaper sections with a message written on it will be as annoying as a rock in your shoe--you have to deal with it eventually.

So send that stuff to your senior Senator!
124 posted on 03/31/2002 7:56:52 PM PST by DennisR
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To: DennisR
After all, this (passage of HR 2525 NRST) would require that people voting on its passage lose their jobs, plus many of the jobs of their constituents back home

What indicates this? I don't have any idea why you would think this....

125 posted on 03/31/2002 8:00:38 PM PST by Principled
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To: DennisR

After all, this would require that people voting on its passage lose their jobs,

The trick is to let them know their cushy jobs depend on enacting the laws we want.

That upper 40% of the taxpayers also bankrolls them Congress Critter's campaigns as well as having more at stake and more to gain than the 70% of the voting public clamoring for more from government looking for the top 40% of taxpayers to foot the bill.

I find most people I talk to and educate about the NRST even those in the 70% of that poll above readily see an advantage to themselves in passing Linders HR2525 or Tausin's HR2717. The key is learning the facts for youself, and educating collegues and neighbors about the NRST.

Key points:

Current Individual Taxform(MacNalley editorial images):

Flat Tax Taxform(Heritage Foundation):

NRST individual Taxform:

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132 posted on 03/31/2002 8:13:03 PM PST by ancient_geezer
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To: DennisR
...My goal is to ensure that no citizen of the US pays any more than 20% of their income in taxes...

I think you may have an unreachable goal. We may be able to limit the feds to 10%. There are still state, county, city, and school taxes to contend with.

137 posted on 04/01/2002 4:39:53 PM PST by jadimov
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To: DennisR
The hyperlink for finding U.S. Senators's addresses for mailing in tax booklets and/or newspaper sections is: U.S. Senator Addresses
142 posted on 04/01/2002 8:01:40 PM PST by DennisR
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