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To: Bigg Red; Ward Smythe; RnMomof7; Dr Eckleburg;
The church is generally considered friendly to the pro-choice position.

It is true that the UMC has been anti-life for some time. During that period, the evangelical movement in the church has made STEADY headway. See Evangelical opposition page for United Methodist Church; click here

First, one must understand that decisions in the church can ONLY be made once every 4 years at the "General Conference." Anyone pretending to speak for "the Methodists" in the interim is simply speaking their own opinion....even if it's a bishop, an agency, a group, or a church.

The evangelicals have STEADILY hacked away at the anti-lifers until the official position of the church is now almost equivalent to "abortion only in the cases of 'rape, incest, and life of the mother.'" While this isn't satisfactory to many, it is steady progress for those who have waged the battle.

In the area of homosexuality, the General Conference has from the beginning opposed homosexual clergy and is on record saying that homosexuality isn't behavior a Christian would engage in..."incompatible with Christian behavior." In this area the GAINS are what should impress. The number in opposition has steadily increased.

As always, our problem is a hierarchy that is liberal and insensitive to the people. They became entrenched in power in the sixties and have used all legal means to keep their hold on the denomination. They are, many of them, mere political activists in sheep's clothing. Many are universalist, wiccan, closet gay, anti-resurrectionist, anti-christian, or just plain power hungry.

They will in one breath argue that the scriptures are corrupt and irrelevant, and in the next argue 'til blue in the face that "rebaptisms" shouldn't occur due to x, y, or z scripture (that they don't believe in.)

In other words, they are ALL FORM and zero substance.

54 posted on 04/01/2002 6:29:47 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins; Bigg Red; RnMomof7; Dr Eckleburg
When we were first married, my wife and I looked for a United Methodist Church in Northern Virginia. Needless to say in that area we didn't find an acceptable one. We've not been UM since.

But we have a lot of friends involved in the Good News movement. We also have a lot of college friends who Pastor in the UM Church. There is hope for the UM Church, but that's just not what you'll see in the mainstream media.

55 posted on 04/01/2002 6:39:15 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: xzins
I will say something that is sad..and not limited to the Methodists X..but true of many mainstream churches...people are scripitually ignorant. Church is a nice place you visit on Sundays. It is a place where you have friendships..but most are still sucking on the milk..They do not generally have doctrinal positions as doctrine has little day to day impact on them......
63 posted on 04/01/2002 9:11:37 AM PST by RnMomof7
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